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Leo Etgen
16th October 2008, 18:22
Hi guys

Oberleutnant Eduard Tratt (38 victories, RK-EL, killed in action 22 February 1944) was wounded on 18 February 1942 while serving with 4./ZG 26 and again on 27 March 1942 while serving as Staffelkapitän of 6./ZG 26. Is there any loss list information for the aircraft that he was flying on those two occasions? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Horrido!

Leo

Jim P.
16th October 2008, 19:58
Bf 110E-2, 4397, TRATT, Oblt. Eduard (F)/Gillert, Uffz. Friedrich (Bf), 38, 4., ZG 26, , 3U+EM, , , 18-Feb-42, WIA due to Flak. Bf OK., , Ostfront, Ring, ZG 26 loss list, , nordwestlich Rshew, b, F, ,
Bf 110E-2, 3794, TRATT, Oblt. Eduard (F)/Gillert, Uffz. Friedrich (Bf), 38, 6., ZG 26, , 3U+FP, , , 07-Mar-42, Stkp. Both WIA due to Flak., Date may be 17.3 or 27.3., Ostfront, Ring, ZG 26 loss list, , 15km north of Rshew, b, F, ,
Bf 110G-2, 5198, TRATT, Oblt. Eduard (F)/Rennefahrt, Fw. Paul (Bf), 38, 1., ZG 1, , RH+YK, RH+YK, , 30-Jan-43, Stkp. Injured in FSA due to engine damage. Bf killed., RK., Ostfront, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol.24; Vasco, The Sting of the LW, p.138; Obermaier p.63, , 15km nördlich Rowenki, 100%, F, ,

Leo Etgen
16th October 2008, 20:34
Hello Jim

Many thanks for your prompt reply to my question. This was just what I was searching for. Many thanks and please take care.

Horrido!

Leo

Pawel Burchard
17th October 2008, 00:18
Tratt's report re. 30-Jan-1943 is microfilmed within file of Stab Milch (covering operations in Stalingrad area)

p.

BigWeeker
22nd October 2008, 00:48
At approx 1400hrs (US aircrew time), S/Sgt R L Jackson, RWG of the 401BS, 91st BG in ship '504 "P", claimed an Me410 destroyed at position 5205N1040E. The Claim was graded as (A/C) "Destroyed". This information taken from the post-Mission Encounters Summary.
Rgds,
BW

BigWeeker
22nd October 2008, 01:07
Further to my earlier posting, it seems that although the gunner stated a position of 1040E, 0940E would be more logical, seeing as though the Target of Opportunity was Bunde
BW

Leo Etgen
23rd October 2008, 22:06
Hello BigWeeker

Many thanks for your information. It is my understanding that II./ZG 26 claimed three B-17 four-engined bombers and lost only one Me 410 that day. Do you have any idea if 5205N 1040E/0940E is near Nordhausen where Tratt and Gillert were shot down and killed? Furthermore, do you know if any other gunners claimed a twin-engined fighter that day? Many thanks for your information - great first post.

Horrido!

Leo

George Hopp
24th October 2008, 06:27
There was an earlier thread on the shooting down of Eduard Tratt and it appeared that no fighter could successfully claim him. So, S/Sgt Jackson may well have been the victor over Tratt.

Thanks for the info, BW.

All the best,
George

Juha
26th October 2008, 02:53
Hello Leo
5205N 1040E is a bit north of Nordhausen, almost halfway between Winnigstedt and Kissenbrück.

Hope this helps
Juha

Leo Etgen
26th October 2008, 17:14
Hello Juha

Many thanks for clarifying the location that the coordinates specify. From all that is mentioned it does seem as if Tratt and Gillert were quite possibly downed by Jackson. Very interesting information to know and I wish to thank all who contributed to this thread.

Horrido!

Leo

Evgeny Velichko
19th December 2009, 00:04
Leo - as for my info, "Edu": Tratt was wounded 4 times:

12.08.1940 with 2./ZG2 over England, got Black Wounded medal 13.08.1940
18.02.1942 with 4./ZG26
27.03.1942 with 6./ZG26 Silver Wounded medal: 27.03.1942
30.01.1943 with 1./ZG1

Leo Etgen
20th December 2009, 11:40
Hello Evgeny

Many thanks for the information that Tratt was wounded on 12 August 1940. I had no previous knowledge of this incident so it is most welcome. Take care and thank you.

Horrido!

Leo