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BABIN
9th November 2009, 18:14
Hello,

On 1st December 1943, a Ju 52 "Mausi" (Werknummer 3383), from 1./Minensuchgruppe 1, was shot down by RAF fighters, just off South Britanny coasts. Two questions :

- from where did this aircraft take off, for this mission ?
- which was its letters code ?

Thanks in advance

Pierre BABIN

Marc BENOIT
9th November 2009, 18:43
Hello Pierre,

This Ju 52 MS was shot down by F.O JP Blackwell of 266th Sqdn, flying on a Typhoon 1B, near the Ile de Groix. It was probably a plane of 3 Staffel, which was responsible for the Atlantic coast from Brest to Biarritz.
The base was probably Vannes.
Sorry, I don't have the code for this machine.

Best regards

Marc

obdl3945
10th November 2009, 01:02
Pierre/Marc...

The codes for this machine would have been 3K+?H for 1.Staffel or 3K+?L for 3.Staffel.

Regards...

Paul

Larry deZeng
10th November 2009, 01:19
Definitely 1. Staffel based at Vannes:

1./MSGr. 1

also as: 1. Minensuchstaffel (after 29 Feb 44)


Holland, France, North Germany and Denmark. (Dec 42 - May 45)

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Apr 43: from April 1943 on, the Staffel had an average of 12 to 18 Ju 52s on strength.
3 Jul 43: Ju 52 destroyed in a mine explosion near St-Nazaire, 100%, 2 KIA and 2 WIA.
4 Jul 43: a man from the Staffel KIA during an Allied air attack on Nantes airfield.
23 Sep 43: based at Vannes/Brittany.
1 Dec 43: Ju 52 shot down into the sea by a fighter off the French coast, 100%, 1 KIA, 1 WIA and rest of crew rescued.
12 Jun 44: transferred to Cognac airfield/SW France this date.

[Source for the 23 Sep 43 entry: NARA WashDC: RG 242/T-321 roll 61 document].

BABIN
10th November 2009, 10:02
Thank you very much to Marc, Paul and Larry.

Pierre

Brian Bines
11th November 2009, 07:08
Hello Pierre,

The only details I have are Bm Ofw. Max Olschlegel (umlaut over O) killed, and Bs Fw Adolf Kasselkus wounded with the rest of the crew rescued unharmed. Do you have any details on the rest of the crew and who rescued them,

Regards

Brian Bines

Andreas Brekken
11th November 2009, 07:36
Hi.

Loss record:

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_public.asp?lossid=110069

Regards,
Andreas B

John Beaman
11th November 2009, 14:39
I have the SKZ as DF+DG

Chris Goss
11th November 2009, 15:37
I contacted one of the survivors from this so if you want any further info, PM me

brewerjerry
12th November 2009, 04:29
I contacted one of the survivors from this so if you want any further info, PM me

Hi Chris,
In that case, was blackwell picked up by the same dornier as the JU crew ?
cheers
jerry

Chris Goss
12th November 2009, 07:59
Cannot say for sure as I am away from home but I seem to remember yes

brewerjerry
12th November 2009, 19:53
Cannot say for sure as I am away from home but I seem to remember yes
thanks for the reply
jerry