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cholmnut
11th February 2011, 07:15
Howdy,

Is there a record of a Ju-52 "4V+AB" being lost on 23 or 24 February 1942 in Russia? If so, are the crew listed?

Thankyou
Dave

Khorat
11th February 2011, 12:44
Possible is Ju 52/3m serial 5616, KGr.zbV 172 damaged at Airbase Demjansk, damage given with 30% no crew given (no one hurt).

KGr. zbV 172 planes use marking 4V+

24th 4V+DT lost, serail 5616 no markings given
23rd 4V+KD and 4V+CU lost

source: GQM files

khorat

Jim P.
13th February 2011, 20:28
I also have this machine with minimal details -

Ju 52/3m, , n.n., , , I., KG.z.b.V. 172, , , , , 24-Feb-42, Machine gun fire. Bs KIA., , Transportverbände/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8, , bei Wolokowaja, b, F, Bs Uffz. Blumenstein, ,

cholmnut
14th February 2011, 01:27
Thanks both for your replies. Jim, are you referring to "4V+AB"? Wait up, just had a peek at the Volksbund site and found this fella:
Nachname:Blumenstein
Vorname:Rudolf Georg
Dienstgrad:Unteroffizier
Geburtsdatum:30.07.1918
Geburtsort:Naumburg/Saale
Todes-/Vermisstendatum:24.02.1942
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Demjansk

I guess you are talking about one of the planes mentioned by khorat.

Dave

cholmnut
14th February 2011, 01:30
Can either of you guys provide additional details from your sources for the following 3 Ju-52/3m, all damaged or destroyed on 25 February 1942:
• Wkr.No. 6062, damaged in a bombing attack on Fl.Pl. Kholm
• Code BJ+EN Wkr.No. 3178, damaged in a bombing attack on Fl.Pl. Kholm.
• Wkr.No. 6955, damaged in a bombing attack on Fl.Pl. Kholm.

Thanks so much.
Dave

Matti Salonen
20th February 2011, 10:03
1942-02-25, 1./KGr.z.b.V. 9, Ju 52/3mg8e, 3178, 4V+KH, Fl.Pl. Cholm, Bombenwurf. Bruch ? %.
F Olt Schubert, Hermann, tot
Bf Ofw Hansen, Karl, verletzt (Ofw Hansen am 1942-03-07 im Lazarett seinen Verletzungen erlegen. Ofw Hansen von E-Stelle Rechlin, Techn.Kompanie der E-Stelle)

Matti

cholmnut
4th March 2011, 12:46
Hi Matti, great, thanks for the information. Seems the plane had different codes ("BJ+EN" in one sources and "4V+KH" in yours).
Dave

Jim P.
5th March 2011, 03:26
'BJ+EN' was the Stammkennzeichen for the machine.