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S Sheflin 23rd September 2017 19:09

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hello,

Post #358, does anyone else read the GI’s location on the back of several of these photos as being outside of Stotel? (53.445368 8.596309).

Thanks in advance for your input.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin

Marc-André Haldimann 23rd September 2017 19:43

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Dear Steve,

Either one reads "hotel" or - correctly so IMHO - Stotel, close to Cuxhaven. Thanks for pointing this out.

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 24th September 2017 12:02

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Interesting Ju87G-2 with flame dempers and 37mm flak 18. Found Munich June 1945 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-WWII-Photo-Album-USMC-Marine-Germany-Africa-France-Normandy-German-Flag/272858444845?hash=item3f87a1742d%3Ag%3A9VAAAOSwAGl ZxUsU
( also a Bf109 intact on the autobahn) scroll to last pictures.

Graveyard http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-WW2-SET...AOSw%7EoFZxTin

Marc-André Haldimann 24th September 2017 15:17

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks for the Munich and Hofoldinger Forst shots; the Bf 109 was the only one found a that location. It was later towed to Brunnthal and scrapped there: https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...7631643557344/

As for the boneyard shown in the second batch of pics, they do depict Fw 190 D-9's and a lone Ju 87 D wing. Location has been ID'ed by Steve Sheflin as Stolten, close to Cuxhaven, Norther Germany.

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 24th September 2017 17:52

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Marc. Always good to know more, and to connect the pictures. Well done.

Marc-André Haldimann 24th September 2017 18:16

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
You’re always welcome, Michiel ! Thanks for your dedication in chasing those rare pictures.

Sincerely
Marc

Mark Proulx 24th September 2017 18:57

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
I believe the Stuka is Ju 87 G-2, W.Nr. 494200, photographed frequently with its location given as Pilsen.

Mark Proulx

Micke D 24th September 2017 21:03

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
I think that the Fw 190D-9s in #358 and #363 must be unfinished Fw 190D-13s from Weserflug!
The visible fuselage has the flat cover in front of the wind screen and the fire wall behind the engine has the missing middle part because of the engine mounted MG 151 gun.

Snautzer 25th September 2017 12:43

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Bf109 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Org-Photo-US...0AAOSwGh5Zu0nD

Fw189 7/4/1945 USAAF airman's Salzburg Austria http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-4-1945-USA...cAAOSw409ZwrGa

Fw190 Usaaf marking http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Capture...wAAOSw10NZwbHA

Bf109 http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Origina...YAAOSwa51Zbhe4

Snautzer 25th September 2017 13:20

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Not captured He111 Iraq http://www.ebay.de/itm/WK-II-Ostfron...EAAOSwjghZx6mF

Roger Gaemperle 25th September 2017 15:05

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Snautzer,

AFAIK the He 111 is not a captured aircraft, but belonged to the Sonderkommando Junck. See https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonderstab_F

Cheers, Roger

Snautzer 25th September 2017 16:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Roger i know. That is why i wrote " not captured." and "Iraq".

The few times i posted odd sightings the were m8ved by the admin to this thread so i though i save them the trouble

Roger Gaemperle 25th September 2017 17:02

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Oops, sorry my fault! I should have read your post more carefully. :)

Snautzer 25th September 2017 17:21

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
I'm glad you read this thread :-)

Snautzer 25th September 2017 23:03

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Fw190 wrknr 586875 Bf109 nr 21+ http://www.ebay.de/itm/US-Foto-Beute...AOSw%7EjpZxiG6

Ju188 and Ju88 http://www.ebay.de/itm/US-Foto-2x-Ju...kAAOSwmblZxiE6

edNorth 26th September 2017 06:21

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
similar view, not same, at Braunschweig
http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LC...1945-22f-s.jpg

ChrisMAg2 26th September 2017 07:46

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 240088)

Very likely this is "EB-104" (in/ arnd. 1944 in the US) that later became FE-125/T2-125 - Fw190G-3 - WNr.160016 - DN+FP

Marc-André Haldimann 26th September 2017 08:34

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
[quote=Snautzer;240123]Fw190 wrknr 586875 Bf109 nr 21+ http://www.ebay.de/itm/US-Foto-Beute...AOSw%7EjpZxiG6

The Bf 109 in the background is Bf 109 G-10 W.Nr. 610 783 "Schwarze 21", 7./JG 52. Some other pictures of this machine can be found here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/5230832269
https://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/5231423792
https://www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/37220195686

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 26th September 2017 16:58

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Possibly posted before:
Bf 109 white 9:
https://dyyrxq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/WW2-AVIA...53.m1438.l2649
Ju 52 H4+AA:
https://dyaq6a.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/WW2-AVIA...53.m1438.l2649
Do 24 CH+ ??:
https://dyykfg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/WW2-AVIA...53.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

Steve Coates 26th September 2017 19:09

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
A number of this seller's photos have been printed on multiple occasions and passed out to veterans as souvenirs as I've seen quite a few of these over the years. Doesn't necessarily make them any less interesting.

Snautzer 27th September 2017 12:40

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Fw190A-8 WNr.175140 http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-GERM...MAAOSwgJlZyps6

RudiS 28th September 2017 17:27

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
2 negatives of Ju 88 with British markings:
https://dyzaqw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-X-World-Wa...19.m1438.l2649

Burned Ju 88 in North Africa:
https://dyzojq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-AVIATION...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

ChrisMAg2 29th September 2017 02:49

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
I believe the upper two photos of a Ju88 show british captured "HM509" with No.1426 flight, ex Ju88A-5, WNr.6073, M2+MK of KüFlGr106. The remainder of the original registry "M2" is barely visible left of the fuselage roundel.

Snautzer 29th September 2017 13:18

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Arado Ar96 , Potez wrecks boneyard http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-Rar...MAAOSw4R1ZzEln

Snautzer 29th September 2017 13:20

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Wreck http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-Rar...MAAOSw4R1ZzEln

*repost* Me163 on truckshttp://www.ebay.com/itm/U-S-A-WW-II-Photo-Captured-ME-163B-Komets-on-Trucks-1721/391896601214?hash=item5b3edb927e%3Ag%3AuA0AAOSw-CpX-9uf

RudiS 30th September 2017 15:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 88 3C+FR and 2 photos of wreckage:

https://dlhorq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-Rare-Origi...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

Marc-André Haldimann 30th September 2017 16:07

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 240345)

Just when I was about to post it, Rudi: good sync :)

1. Ju 88 G "3C+FR", 7./NJG 3. Was it also found in Metz ?
2. Erla built Bf 109 G-6, W.Nr. 413 50x "Grüne (?) 10", Stab I./JG 3, Metz - Frescatay, November 1944.
3. Fw 190 A-8, Metz - Frescatay, November 1944.

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 30th September 2017 16:21

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
A new Ta 152 H picture ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NobleSpirit-...oAAOSwBUVZzuGu

Cheers
Marc

Rémi Baudru 30th September 2017 18:17

Re: A new photo of ta 152 = Fw D9 JG 6 Halle
 
Bonjour,

A new Ta 152 H picture ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NobleSpirit-...oAAOSwBUVZzuGu

To my mind, it is Fw 190 D9 surrendered at Halle ("3" number 600422 Fieseler production).

Best regards.

Rémi

ChrisMAg2 30th September 2017 20:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 240346)
...
1. Ju 88 G "3C+FR", 7./NJG 3. Was it also found in Metz ?
2. Erla built Bf 109 G-6, W.Nr. 413 50x "Grüne (?) 10", Stab I./JG 3, Metz - Frescatay, November 1944.
3. Fw 190 A-8, Metz - Frescatay, November 1944.
...

@ 1.: Ju88G-1, WNr.712373, 3C+FR of 7./NJG4. It is reported to be at Jouvincourt, France, winter 44/ 45

Snautzer 1st October 2017 11:06

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Bf109 on (french) train http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-5x4-Phot...IAAOSwi69Z0A0d

Von Alles 1st October 2017 11:31

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Bf 109K, but the flat car is german. I can't see where the detail pic come from ?

ChrisMAg2 1st October 2017 14:41

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Alles (Post 240363)
... I can't see where the detail pic come from ?

It is a detail from the seller's other lot. Look here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-5x4-Phot....c100009.m1982

Marc-André Haldimann 1st October 2017 15:45

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
http://historical-media.com/id1081.htm

Bf 309 V1 and Ju 52/3m

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 2nd October 2017 22:00

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 87 North Africa:
https://dlg5ow.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-W...cAAOSwpLdZ0c2e

Different wrecks:
https://dlgdug.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-TANK...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi

Marc-André Haldimann 2nd October 2017 23:29

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
The last one is an Erla built Bf 109, probably a G-14, from EJG 1, Salzburg -Maxglan.

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 3rd October 2017 11:35

Mistel Ju88_Fw190, Merseberg <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Org-Photo-US-Captured-Luftwaffe-MISTEL-Fw-190-Fighter-Mounted-on-Ju-88-Bomber/372094067677?hash=item56a288e3dd%3Ag%3AW04AAOSwQNR Z0rpO" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Org-Photo-US...em56a288e3dd%3

Bf109 late http://www.ebay.com/itm/Org-Photo-US...QAAOSwYbhZ0vYc

Roger Gaemperle 3rd October 2017 11:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Anybody recognises the aircraft type in the photo on the left in the 2nd photo of post 395?

ChrisMAg2 3rd October 2017 12:42

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Gaemperle (Post 240452)
Anybody recognises the aircraft type in the photo on the left in the 2nd photo of post 395?

Roger,
that is a riddle to me too. It looks like a He111 and could be a G type with DB600 engines. Of Interesst is also the FdF embleme.

Edit:
It is identified by Gerhard Stemmer as He111G-2, WNr.3365, DLH D-ADBX, FdF PF+UR.
See the topic at LRG: https://www.luftwaffe-research-group...st.4033/page-2

ChristianK 3rd October 2017 13:58

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi there! From an old correspondence with Peter Achs I got the info that this is He 111, Werknr. 3365, D-ADBX (ex PF+UR), used by the F.d.F. and flown to Salzburg in the last days of war by a pilot named Zwyna.

There are some unclarities however, as the site stammkennzeichen.de has the Werknummer of PF+UR as 3229 (On the other hand, the site also lists this plane as a H-variant, while it is obviously a He 111 G). I leave it to others to shed more light on this, though...


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