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Roger Gaemperle 19th April 2018 13:45

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Thanks Rudi. Not Ar 234 but Me 262 wing and engine assembly. Ju 87 and this assembly ate known, but I don’t have access to my files right now to determine the location. I am sure others will be able to identify the airfield.

RudiS 19th April 2018 16:52

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Thanks Roger. The shape of the wing made me think it was an Ar 234.

Regards,
Rudi

peter.werry 20th April 2018 03:43

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#989 Thanks Nick for your confirmation of TG30. Subsequently I have found another photo of the same machine in Pegg's 'Transporter Vol2' on page 189, it was He111 H-20 W.Nr.700328 coded S3+IP at Schweinfurt in 1945.
Regards
Peter

Nick Beale 20th April 2018 08:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by peter.werry (Post 250887)
#989 Thanks Nick for your confirmation of TG30. Subsequently I have found another photo of the same machine in Pegg's 'Transporter Vol2' on page 189, it was He111 H-20 W.Nr.700328 coded S3+IP at Schweinfurt in 1945.
Regards
Peter

S3+IP would be a problem because as far as I know TGr. 30 only had three Staffeln in the period from June 1944 until the end of the war.

edwest2 20th April 2018 18:13

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Were there four in total?


https://www.asisbiz.com/Luftwaffe/tgr30.html




Ed

Nick Beale 20th April 2018 18:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 250914)

Georg Schlaug told me he had evidence from a Soldbuch that a 4./TGr. 30 was formed in North Germany towards the end of the war. Apparently it was an ad hoc unit made up of various transport machines assembling there and finished up at Eggebeck. For the supply operations in the west from June 1944 only the Stab, 1., 2. and 3. appear to have been involved.

ouidjat 20th April 2018 18:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 250914)
Were there four in total?
Ed

Hi Ed,
That's not exactly what Nick said; just that after June 1944 TGr.30 had three Sfaffeln.
Same in Pegg's Transporter Vol 2 (I gave just a quick glance) it's clearly said page 159 where "the group had at that time- around 18 of November - between 30 to 35 machines divided between the three Staffeln" (sic)

As for the machine with "K" on rudder ...
Caption page 181 talking about 700628 Code S3+ML !!! and tail unit was a replacement.
...
As for me I can't go beyond this; unless there was two machines having a replacement tail with a "K" on it :)

regards,
Franck.

PS: Both machine at Schweinfurt, indeed; it should have been too easy without that de-tail (!)

Nick Beale 20th April 2018 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 250916)
Hi Ed,
Same in Pegg's Transporter Vol 2 (I gave just a quick glance) it's clearly said page 159 where "the group had at that time- around 18 of November - between 30 to 35 machines divided between the three Staffeln" (sic)
regards,
Franck.

Actual strengths at this period (source: ULTRA) were:

17.11.44 10 (3) aircraft 57 (15) crews
19.11.44 11 (3) aircraft 57 (16) crews

700628 was damaged twice in ground accidents, in November 1944 and January 1945.

edwest2 20th April 2018 21:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 250915)
Georg Schlaug told me he had evidence from a Soldbuch that a 4./TGr. 30 was formed in North Germany towards the end of the war. Apparently it was an ad hoc unit made up of various transport machines assembling there and finished up at Eggebeck. For the supply operations in the west from June 1944 only the Stab, 1., 2. and 3. appear to have been involved.



Thank you, Nick.



Ed

RudiS 21st April 2018 13:44

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Ju 52:
https://dlg9ow.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-wreaked...19.m1438.l2649


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