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spektor 28th March 2021 12:29

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Readable only this:

Первый реактивный самолет
участвующий в ___________________
________________________,Германия

The first reactive aircraft
involved in________________________
_________________________,Germany.

Ľubo.

ChristianK 28th March 2021 13:46

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Given the soviet soldiers and the kind of mountains in the background there are not many possible locations where these pictures could have been taken. Eastern Austria is more flat (IIRC), which leaves basically only Northern Bohemia or Soutwest Silesia. This also ties in with the known area of operations of KG (J) 6. Perhaps Reichenberg/Liberec or Niemes/Mimon.

ouidjat 28th March 2021 14:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spektor (Post 304175)
Readable only this:

Первый реактивный самолет
участвующий в ___________________
________________________,Германия

The first reactive aircraft
involved in________________________
_________________________,Germany.

Ľubo.


Thanks Lubo. Not enough though for our purpose. Nice try anyway.

ouidjat 28th March 2021 14:33

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristianK (Post 304178)
Given the soviet soldiers and the kind of mountains in the background there are not many possible locations where these pictures could have been taken. Eastern Austria is more flat (IIRC), which leaves basically only Northern Bohemia or Soutwest Silesia. This also ties in with the known area of operations of KG (J) 6. Perhaps Reichenberg/Liberec or Niemes/Mimon.


I see a KG(J) 54 machine Christian. See known "Gelbe 2" and "Gelbe 3".
Why not Deutsch-Brod? But I don't know the landscape around! ;)

ChristianK 28th March 2021 15:19

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Oops, somehow i had KG(J) 6 in mind. But anyway, this doesn't change much. Red Army soldiers plus a landscape like that indicate the area I mentioned. Okay, I guess somewhere in Thuringia might be possible too, but this Bf 109 very much looks like a Tisnov-built example, which would also point to Bohemia a little more.



The landscape around Deutsch Brod (as seen in JaPo's book on the Bf 109s there) looks not that mountainous.

ouidjat 28th March 2021 15:29

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristianK (Post 304182)
Oops, somehow i had KG(J) 6 in mind. But anyway, this doesn't change much. Red Army soldiers plus a landscape like that indicate the area I mentioned. Okay, I guess somewhere in Thuringia might be possible too, but this Bf 109 very much looks like a Tisnov-built example, which would also point to Bohemia a little more.

The landscape around Deutsch Brod (as seen in JaPo's book on the Bf 109s there) looks not that mountainous.


OK, Thanks Christian.

Marc-André Haldimann 29th March 2021 15:57

Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
 
Franck, ChristianK,

Further to this KG(J) 54 machine - and the WNF Diana G-10/U4, location might well be Zeltweg. Hoping for a confirmation though.

Cheers
Marc

Nick Beale 29th March 2021 16:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 304222)
Franck, ChristianK,

Further to this KG(J) 54 machine - and the WNF Diana G-10/U4, location might well be Zeltweg. Hoping for a confirmation though.

Cheers
Marc

The British found many Bf 109s at Zeltweg but no Me 262, so if that is the place, the Russians must have taken the jet away before they left on 21 July 1945.

ouidjat 29th March 2021 18:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 304226)
The British found many Bf 109s at Zeltweg but no Me 262, so if that is the place, the Russians must have taken the jet away before they left on 21 July 1945.

Hi Nick,

Whatever Zeltweg (or Saaz btw) I did have the same thoughts BUT, in the mean time, I wonder if the British or the US where that stupid to let such machine in Russian hands...
Regards,
Franck.
PS: there is some kind of a factory in the far background, aren't we able to ID it?

Nick Beale 29th March 2021 19:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 304232)
Hi Nick,

Whatever Zeltweg (or Saaz btw) I did have the same thoughts BUT, in the mean time, I wonder if the British or the US where that stupid to let such machine in Russian hands...

The Soviets were there first, withdrew in July and then the British moved in. It was all part of establishing the different occupation zones in Austria.


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