Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a presentation aircraft Royal Aircraft Factory F.E.2b Montreal No.2


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/166574494...4AAOSwhyVluSTy


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Tricky one Clint

Four different FE.2 used the Presentation name Montreal No2
I have chosen A5661 for one reason only and that is the Roman digits IV.
A5661 was the fourth one using it.
Right or wrong? No idea....

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Thanks Stig. I did wonder about this. Why were multiple aircraft assigned the same presentation name and number As you're aware Montrel No.2 being far deom an isolated example.? Any thoughts?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

I can't say straight away why, but it was very common.

I believe it had to do with a decision taken by Sir David Henderson that a SOC aircraft should
be replaced with another one carrying the same donor name.
The Cross & Cockade publication I use as reference does not explicitly say so but I think that
is what they mean. That publication is a bit old by now and only states three Montreal No2, but
their separate, and much more recent, FE2 book gives one extra aircraft in its list.

In the intro to the first reference they say that appx 600 donor names are known and they
were used on appx 1400 aircraft. Unfortunately not all donors can now be connected to an
aircraft's identity.

Cheers
Stig

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a couple of photos of Royal Aircraft Factory B.E.2c 2763 of 13 Squadron in German hands. Does anyone know how this machine was lost?


https://www.ebay.de/itm/386795679160...UAAOSwtYNl1HuE


https://www.ebay.de/itm/386795678042...gAAOSwTXFl1Hr4


The seller has other WWI related photos,which,though probably less interesting can be found here


https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_dkr=...ung+23&_sop=10





Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Capt T W P L Chaloner 1 Jul 16

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Hello,

2nd photo - B.E.2c 2763.

Same photograph (cropped), appears (between pp.70-71) in, The Sky Their Battlefield II - Expanded - Updated edition/Trevor Henshaw.

Page 41/

1st July 1916 (1st day, Battle of the Somme).
BE2c 2763 13 Sqn.
Bombing St. Quentin Rail Stn left 4-31pm attacked by Hostile Aircraft on way out, engine hit Forced To Land CROIX MIA (Capt Hon. TWPL Chaloner (POW) large escort never appeared, aircraft captured, to Holland 16.5.18. Chaloner repatriated 21.1.19.

Capt Hon. Thomas Weston Peel Long CHALONER:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas...ron_Gisborough

Col.

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Thank you both for the replies.


Col, is there any indication as to whether Chaloner was actually shot down by FFA 23 as one might assume,rightly or wrongly, by the seller's caption in The Sky Their Battlefield II ?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Royal Aircraft Factory R.E.7 of the Machine Gun School.


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/186312571...Bk9SR5jAm4C8Yw


The aircraft would apear to have been used as a target tug,if that term was used at the time. Speaking of which,does anyone know if the British were the first to use aircraft as target tugs,or was the technique used earlier elsewhere?


Regards,


Clint

Re: Photos Royal Aircraft Factory Aircraft
 

Hi Clint. Not really my subject but this is RE7 2286 presentation name "KHAIRPUR" just visible ( a state in modern Pakistan); possibly a short time with 21 Sqn. then to the Southern Air Depot 8 Oct. 1916 for various duties including target-towing (not the ideal choice), the photo may be Hythe. The target cloths were streamed from the port interplane struts hopefully on a long line!
According to Cross and Cockade there was another Khairpur, 2290 with 12 Sqn. in 1915. Their serials were on the fins.
Regards
Nick