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Stig Jarlevik 13th May 2018 10:53

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gogh (Post 251915)
On TS+WE is the WNr. wrong painted

Gogh

Can you expand a bit on that please?
Such as what then is its correct WNr and also if you know why it is faulty and how come you know it is.

Cheers
Stig

RudiS 13th May 2018 14:30

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
He 111 & Ju 87, captioned as at Halle:
https://eqgxcw.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/small-A...19.m1438.l2649

Marc-André Haldimann 13th May 2018 20:55

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 87 D, Weimar-Nohra, early July 1945.

http://www.nohra.narod.ru/080545/nohra1945_ju87.jpg

gogh 14th May 2018 13:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 251929)
Gogh

Can you expand a bit on that please?
Such as what then is its correct WNr and also if you know why it is faulty and how come you know it is.

Cheers
Stig

It was once discussed here, I made a note attached to the picture.

Stig Jarlevik 14th May 2018 22:17

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gogh (Post 251979)
It was once discussed here, I made a note attached to the picture.

Since I obviously missed out on that one, can you enlighten me a bit further please?

Cheers
Stig

Gerhard 14th May 2018 22:19

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Gogh

I don't understand your answers.

Undoubtly, we can see Wnr 8209 and a 'Kennzeichen' (not necessarily a Skz) either TS+WE or more probably TS+WF.

Of course, these may be fake. But why? And what are the correct ones?

Gerhard

gogh 14th May 2018 23:44

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
from this site

"16th July 2007, 13:14
David Ransome David Ransome is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Wales, UK
Posts: 341
David Ransome
Photos Fw190, Ju87 & 88, He111 etc
Hi,

Just unpacked a box and rediscovered some large format copies of some photos taken at war's end 1945. I mentioned details of some on this site probably 3-4 years ago. My image resolution appears too high for them to be included in this mail but I could possibly send someone an attachment to play around with or, if you send me a pm I'll endeavour to send them to you!

I don't think that I've seen these pics published although I'm sure someone will advise if they aren't new!

Fw190 190148, and VO+LJ and ??+SB, tall tail wheel and fin Me109, Ju87 & 88, shot up JG2 emblem, He111 3209 TS+WE and other bits & bobs.

Thought that somebody may be interested in seeing them,

Regards,

David"

ouidjat 15th May 2018 00:34

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=9474

I'm going to sleep.
Maybe it's a secret after all!
Thanks Piet!
Regards,
Franck. ;)

Stig Jarlevik 15th May 2018 10:24

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gogh (Post 252019)
from this site

"16th July 2007, 13:14
David Ransome David Ransome is offline
Senior Member

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Wales, UK
Posts: 341
David Ransome
Photos Fw190, Ju87 & 88, He111 etc
Hi,

Just unpacked a box and rediscovered some large format copies of some photos taken at war's end 1945. I mentioned details of some on this site probably 3-4 years ago. My image resolution appears too high for them to be included in this mail but I could possibly send someone an attachment to play around with or, if you send me a pm I'll endeavour to send them to you!

I don't think that I've seen these pics published although I'm sure someone will advise if they aren't new!

Fw190 190148, and VO+LJ and ??+SB, tall tail wheel and fin Me109, Ju87 & 88, shot up JG2 emblem, He111 3209 TS+WE and other bits & bobs.

Thought that somebody may be interested in seeing them,

Regards,

David"

Thanks Gogh

Now, that was an old thread :)
Did David ever post a photo of said He 111? As far as I can read we only have his interpretation. He does not actually say the photo shows 8209 but in fact is 3209 doctored to resemble the former. This means that David read the WNr as 3209 while everyone else now (or so I think) is reading 8209.

I have nicked two e-bay photos myself and both of them very clearly show 8209. The eight conforms exactly in paint, shape, size etc with the other three digits, so whoever performed the "hoax" was very careful indeed.

Bottom line, for me at least, is that I need a bit better evidence for tampering than this. Sorry.

Cheers
Stig

RudiS 17th May 2018 14:28

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
press photos:
https://eqhnxa.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/1943-Pr...19.m1438.l2649

https://eqgc0q.bn.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/1939-Vi...19.m1438.l2649


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