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Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Hi Gents,
Thanks to Spektor over in modelforum.cz this picture of an Erla Bf 109 G-10.
Caption created by former Normandie-Niémen pilot Penzini family says "Le Bourget, 25 June 1945".
It is reknown the RC 3 reached Le Bourget this day but I don't believe they bring a G-10 with them.
Any ideas?
Note the kite has flamme damper over exhaust typical for a (former at least) Nachtjagd Jäger. The camouflage too ...
Regards,
Franck.
http://penzinipilote.chez-alice.fr/g...b/pages/17.htm
PS: Landscape in background is too far for Le Bourget.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Hi Franck.

You're right, the background doesn't look like Le Bourget. It's Prague-Rusin Airport.
Source: Jet & Prop 3/2012

Lubo.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Quote:

Originally Posted by spektor (Post 304377)

Hi Franck.

You're right, the background doesn't look like Le Bourget. It's Prague-Rusin Airport.
Source: Jet & Prop 3/2012

Lubo.

Hi Lubo,
Super! the unit was at Prague on 16 June 1945.
The return have been as follow:
15, left Posen.
16 Prague
17 Stuttgart
20 St. Dizier then Le Bourget.
Franck.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Hi Frank,
Post #4448 - Its low oil filler hatch suggests that it is not a G-10.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Quote:

Originally Posted by S Sheflin (Post 304386)

Hi Frank,
Post #4448 - Its low oil filler hatch suggests that it is not a G-10.
Respectfully,
Steve Sheflin

Thank you Steve, I know. :)
JaPo, Luftwaffe over Czech territory 1945, page 145. Maybe this one?
Regards,
Franck.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Franck, Lubo,

Thanks to Rasmussen, 7 May 2014, the W.Nr. of this Erla built Bf 109 G-14 is thought to be W.Nr. 465 805.

Cheers
Marc

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

But what about the digits on the rudder?
Replacement or some obscure part number?

How was the ID made?

Cheers
Stig

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stig Jarlevik (Post 304404)

But what about the digits on the rudder?
Replacement or some obscure part number?

How was the ID made?

Cheers
Stig

Rasmussen kindly gave me that answer on my Flickr page, 7 May 2014. No details given.

Cheers
Marc

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

The number on the rudder is the internal Erla c/n.

Erla 49247 = RLM 465805.

Regards

Dirk

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 304401)

Franck, Lubo,

Thanks to Rasmussen, 7 May 2014, the W.Nr. of this Erla built Bf 109 G-14 is thought to be W.Nr. 465 805.

Cheers
Marc

Merci Marc.
At least it was an Erla ! :)
Cheers,
Franck.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-star25 (Post 304408)

The number on the rudder is the internal Erla c/n.

Erla 49247 = RLM 465805.

Regards

Dirk

Thanks Dirk
Never heard of before that Erla kept their own WNr range, but it certainly explains the digits.... :)

Cheers
Stig

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 304818)

https://i.ibb.co/wNxPSjJ/Bf-109-495.jpg

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...UAAOSw67hgcfAC

A fine new photo with on the left Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 165 683 (?) "Gelbe 1", unit unknown; on the right Bf 109 G-10/R2 770 184 "Schwarze 11", from a yet to identify 2./NAGr. Location is Prien am Chiemsee, Germany, Summer 1945.

In the background is Fw 190 A-8 W.Nr. 170 016 "DU+JP".

Cheers
Marc