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SES 26th April 2012 09:15

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Hi Kim,
It is my undersatnding that you have not located the tail section, is that correct?

@ Andy. A He219 was equipped with the FuG10 and FuG16ZY.

bregds
SES

Andy Saunders 26th April 2012 09:18

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Kim

Although I am not familiar with the He 219 (!!) I would imagine that it is likely it follows other Luftwaffe types that have the Werke nummer painted in black numerals (about 1cm) on the reverse of removable panels; eg cowlings, inspection hatches, re-fuelling points etc etc. These numerals are the same style as the numbers that I mistakenly took to be the W.Nr on this wreckage. Just look for any trace of painted numbers on the inside of panels would be my advice. It might well be more reliable than looking for a data plate, and if you find such a number repeated then you clearly will have the W.Nr. From the looks of it, some paintwork/painted numbers under the mud and encrustations have survived so you might be lucky. I hope so!

Kim Christiansen 26th April 2012 10:02

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Hello SES

Unfortunately, we are still missing the right engine and tail.

Greetings
Kim C

thlund 26th April 2012 10:37

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Kim, What would be the 'standard operating procedure' - if any - for fishermen to get parts like these in their trawl? Dump it again I'm afraid.

The thing is - I can see the tail being somewhere else, possibly broken off at first impact with water and then water currents or trawl, but the engine is a very heavy piece of equipment...

If accidentally picked up by fishermen and then dumped they could be anywhere.

Marcel Hogenhuis 26th April 2012 10:46

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Just a brief personal comment: what a very encouraging and joyful feeling it is, that so many different contributors with their specific expertise join and support this search for the identity of this He219 !!

As a good, deceased friend of mine always told me: it is not what you know, but who you know... (and then 'what they know' is the bonus).

Marcel

SES 26th April 2012 13:46

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thlund (Post 146795)
Kim, What would be the 'standard operating procedure' - if any - for fishermen to get parts like these in their trawl? Dump it again I'm afraid.


If accidentally picked up by fishermen and then dumped they could be anywhere.

Hopefully there is very little trawling going on in the area. If my understanding is correct the wreck was about 500 m off shore.
Please see attachment for an impression of the hydrography.
bregds
SES

edNorth 26th April 2012 15:35

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Correction from post #105 : Anyone know what the CLO stood for? 707 maybe inspector stamp number (ie. number of the inspector), if not might be part/line number (ie. serial of part). He 177 had similar component numbers painted but four digit ones.

Anyways, Its quite exciting to wait for further pictures of cleaned up items.
I agree on looking for W.Nr., it might appear on inportant instruments, major parts, detachable items, hatches, doors, etc. But these can also have a catch, having "travelled" between planes on if repairs had been done.

@Marcel. Can you give aprox. breakdown of how may were made by each factory? Just curious.

Tony Kambic 26th April 2012 17:14

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On the NASM HE-219, several of access panels on the bottom of the wing had a "202" hand painted on the inside of the panels. Also, on the inside of the wingtips, the full serial number was hand written in pencil.

thlund 26th April 2012 17:28

Re: He 219 found in Denmark !!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SES (Post 146809)
Hopefully there is very little trawling going on in the area. If my understanding is correct the wreck was about 500 m off shore.

The guys on the ship said that there were some fishing in that area.
500m offshore is about correct.

ahafan 27th April 2012 04:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thlund (Post 146817)
The guys on the ship said that there were some fishing in that area.
500m offshore is about correct.

How do we know that this aircraft was dumped over board post war,and the plane was been taken Too- GB-but a storm came and damaged the plane ..then threw the said plane overboard.. then afterwards trawlers hooks picked up parts and dumped back in the sea...
my 50%
sharon


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