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Delete : Thanks RudiS

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Originally Posted by Jaroslav Mazanec (Post 310490)

https://i.imgur.com/T0L0qBr.jpg
https://www.ebay.de/itm/224610818636...AAAOSwl9BhQf1m

Already posted 2 days ago.

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Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 310504)

Already posted 2 days ago.

Ahhh sorry RudiS. I missed.

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes

Post #4770, bottom. What is this aircraft? Is the rear turret entirely remote? What is it called?

TIA,
Ed

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Hey Ed,

this is He 177 535364 V34 GP+WN, captured at E-Stelle Tarnewitz. It featured a quadruple rear-turret (but the gun barrels were removed). Front part of the plane was blown up.

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Thank you Christian.

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Re. Post 4778 above, the tailfin is that of this machine:

Me 262 A-2a, WNr.170312. Test flown by Otto Kaiser on 1 October 1944 at Leipheim, from 11:54 until 12:19. While assigned to I./KG 51 this A-2a was 15% damaged at Rhein-Main (Frankfurt) while maneuvering for takeoff on 19 February 1945. It was found there next to the Autobahn, after an inquiry from I./KG 51 as to where it should be sent if made serviceable on 10 March, without its engines and partially disassembled on 27 March. It was then sent to Frankfurt, and is believed to have been shipped back to the USA aboard the Madawaska Victory as a source of spare parts for 111711. The W. Nr. has been confirmed in photos, but it has often been confused with 111685.

Information from Dan O'Connell's "Messerschmitt Me 252 - The Production Log: 1941-1945". Classic). Seeing this component in a junkpile would confirm that the entire machine was not shipped to the US, possible just the motors and other useable parts.

David

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David,

How on earth did you make this ID? I'm impressed.

Best,
Ed

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Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 310905)

David,

How on earth did you make this ID? I'm impressed.

Best,
Ed

Ed, the W.Nr. is readable below the seller name. ;-)

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Ah, a lapse on my part. Thank you.

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Hi Simon,

I flipped the image and played with the contrast to confirm the fourth number. As well, I compared the camouflage pattern with other images of the machine that confirmed a perfect match.

BTW, I didn’t visit the seller site so was unaware that the number was indicated there.

Best,

David

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Originally Posted by Jaroslav Mazanec (Post 311210)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33418078701...0AAOSw49lhZ48V
https://i.imgur.com/G6yxWXb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/whXnjzf.jpg

Fl.Pl. Köthen, after 15 April 1945. Thanks, Jaroslav !

Cheers
Marc

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Originally Posted by Jaroslav Mazanec (Post 311213)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33418077970...MAAOSwS9FhZ4os
https://i.imgur.com/TQrRqyZ.jpg

This set of photos do show mainly Bf 109 K-4 W.Nr. 334 209, unit unknown, at Fl.Pl. Köthen, after 15 April 1945.

Cheers
Marc

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