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David Ransome 27th April 2009 09:06

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Are you sure it wasn't a fake Hasegawa? Hollow and no substance to it?

David

edwest 28th April 2009 05:47

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Gentlemen,


I am truly sorry I ran across this gentleman, whoever he is. Now we have an autograph card on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI....11668&indexURL=

I'm tempted to contact the seller and ask how it was determined that Mr. Dulias actually served in the Luftwaffe as he claims.



Ed

mikeshilton 28th April 2009 13:21

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
I've been following this story with interest, Herr Dulias is a member of The Luftwaffe Aircrew Re-enactors Association, who believe he is who he says he is.

Kutscha 28th April 2009 13:50

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
What was Dulias' staffel in JG53?

ChrisS 28th April 2009 13:53

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
I think I'd rather trust what he calls his 'own' squadron's association that has no knowledge of him and denies him membership.

Flitzer 16th May 2009 05:45

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Our Herr Dulias has no lack of uniforms.
Go down to the end of the link and there he is.

http://www.wartimepress.com/wwii%20s...of%20shows.asp

David Ransome 16th May 2009 07:53

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Woweeee!

He hardly looks a day older than when he featured on the front of the 'Der Adler' magazine in the photo - that's a good story I'd expect to hear next....................ho hum, when will someone be able to get this one sorted one way or the other?

David

RodM 16th May 2009 08:59

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flitzer (Post 86066)
Our Herr Dulias has no lack of uniforms.
Go down to the end of the link and there he is.

http://www.wartimepress.com/wwii%20s...of%20shows.asp

'good reenactment, but Klink wore a monocle and the uniform isn't strictly correct...

Rod

lritger 18th May 2009 17:46

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Perhaps I should've read this thread, along with the corresponding topic over on the Wehrmacht Awards forum, before attending this weekend's Warbirds Over Virginia Beach show. I had no knowledge of Mr. Dulias prior to yesterday, but listening to the tales with which he regaled visitors to his table and his answers to a few of my questions, I came away with more than a few suspicions about the gentleman.

I introduced myself and addressed him in German, and was pleased to discover he spoke "Hochdeutsch"... he was easy to understand, meaning he wasn't Schwäbisch or a Berliner. (!) I asked him a few questions about his unit and wartime experiences, and here are his answers:

- What unit did you fly with in JG 53?
GD: "3. Staffel... my commander was Helmut Lipfert." He made it clear that Lipfert wasn't his Staffelkapitän, but rather his "Kommandeur".

- What types of aircraft did you engage in combat?
GD: "You see the 'Rata' outside, the Polikarpov?" He then held up three fingers... "I shot down three of them, and I was blessed... the pilots were able to escape so I have not killed a man in my life. I am very much against killing."

(What an odd answer... and as others here have already suggested, the idea of confronting I-16s over Hungary in late 1944 is highly improbable. However, aircraft recognition was never a strong point with many Luftwaffe pilots- it seems like Werner Mölders listed half his kills as 'Curtiss', for instance!)

- Did you find that your G-14/AS offered greater performance over earlier models of ...
GD (interrupting) "Oh yes, we were trained on the Emil, old obsolete crates full of bullet holes sent back from the front. The G-14 was much better than those."

(He then went on to talk about the Bf 108, I never was able to steer him into any further technical discussion about the 109)

He went on about being included in the USAF 'Eagles' event in 2007, and was soon engaged in another conversation about 'Kapusta' with another visitor. On the whole, I found something vaguely odd about the entire encounter although I couldn't put my finger on it. I did purchase his book, and noted something last night- out of all the photos in there, there is not one single photograph of him posing with ANY fighter aircraft or fellow pilots. There is a photo of him with a 'Kranich' glider (I think), and a couple of him clowning around with a post-mounted MG 81Z... but no 109 photos at all. And the photos he was selling (printed on heavy card paper from a standard desktop printer) were definitely of a Hasegawa 1/32 Bf 109G-10 kit built as 'yellow 6', with a couple of the photos featuring a pilot figure in the foreground. The photos had been played with in Photoshop to put them in greyscale and "aged"... a decent job, but being a modeler, I recognized the kit almost immediately.

I have no doubt that he DID serve in the Luftwaffe in some capacity, and that he suffered in Soviet captivity... but I DEFINITELY doubt his claims about his wartime service as a pilot. With that said, I can't say the man serves no purpose... he was engaging, entertaining, and he wasn't making outlandish claims about aircraft performance. He was educating people about conditions in Germany during the war and about pilots in the Luftwaffe... whether that experience was based on first-hand knowledge is definitely up for debate, but I will admit that there was some merit in his 'presentations', in that people left his table with a more positive impression about Luftwaffe personnel.

One last point, specifically regarding rank... yesterday, Herr Dulias sported the insignia of a Hauptmann, with a silver Frontflugspange, Eisernes Kreuz, a JG 53 Pik As enamel pin, a Pilot's badge, and what appeared to be an observer's badge. It was certainly a diverse grouping for someone who allegedly entered combat in August 1944.

Cheers all-

Lynn

ChrisS 18th May 2009 21:42

Re: Gottfried Dulias
 
Hello all

I drew the attention of the eBay autograph to our discussion here on this forum and he responded by immediatly withdrawing the auction and contacting his supplier informing him that no more autographs from Duliar would be accepted.

A good result I think.

Chris


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