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Snautzer 22nd October 2017 14:15

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Marc, always nice the read more on a eBay find with the level of detail you provide.

RudiS 22nd October 2017 15:17

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 88 3Z-GP, photo taken at Istres accoring to the seller
https://4iog0a.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ALAN-COBHAM...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi

Nick Beale 22nd October 2017 16:41

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 241571)
Ju 88 3Z-GP, photo taken at Istres accoring to the seller

Regards,
Rudi

Found at Istres/Le Tube, forward section burned out. G in black with yellow outline. Had FuG 200 aerials on nose. The report says "2629" was painted on the fin but on a flame damper, in yellow, was "GP 301532": http://www.ghostbombers.com/dragoon/appx1b.html

Since a 3Z+GP had been destroyed by strafing at Istres on 16 June 1944, this is quite likely to be that aircraft.

canonne 22nd October 2017 23:01

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes :He111
 
Bonsoir,

Any idea of the unit ? airdrome ? type ? ....
He 111 with black undersurfaces it seems ...exhaust pipes for night missions ...
Phil

Snautzer 22nd October 2017 23:40

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Fi-156 American stars, Kaufbeuren https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Photo-...AAAOSwWHBZ66xZ

Marc-André Haldimann 23rd October 2017 11:35

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
You're always welcome, Michiel.

Here a new shot of the Chateaudun He 177:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...IAAOSwrFtZ7Ozt

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 23rd October 2017 12:00

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju290 Me262 Bf109 Miesbach-Munich-Germany https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-194...kAAOSwVtZZ5060

RudiS 23rd October 2017 12:18

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
#487: Me 262: I think this is WNr 111617 at München-Riem.

Regards,
Rudi.

ChrisMAg2 23rd October 2017 13:31

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
In Snautzer's last link there is this one photo of a bf109, yellow 33:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/k3cAA...6n/s-l1600.jpg

What is it and where might it be? In the vincinity of Miesbach, south of Brunnthal as stated?

Roger Gaemperle 23rd October 2017 14:38

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
So, can anybody tell me why this one went so high?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Photogr...53.m1438.l2649

It looks to me like a JG4 RVB. But what else is so special?

Roger

RudiS 23rd October 2017 15:06

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
According to the seller, these 2 photos were taken near Braunschweig:
Bf 109:
https://4imhrq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.ebay.de/itm/WW2-Photograp...19.m1438.l2649
Fw 190 (sic). Looks more like the tail of a Me 410 to me:
https://4io8uq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://www.ebay.de/itm/WW2-Photograp...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

Roger Gaemperle 23rd October 2017 15:19

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
The Bf 109 is featured in my book "Captured Eagles Vol. 1" with two sharp photos. It was used for testing the DB 605. See also here:

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/archiv...p?t-20976.html

ouidjat 23rd October 2017 15:49

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Gaemperle (Post 241620)
So, can anybody tell me why this one went so high?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Photogr...53.m1438.l2649

It looks to me like a JG4 RVB. But what else is so special?

Roger

Ask Neil Page. He knows the buyer ... ;)

Mark Proulx 23rd October 2017 17:23

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Photos are also published in WOTBC Number 9 for post #491 upper. This is D-IWAU, Bf 109 F-4, W.Nr. 9227 at Regensberg circa 1945. It was photographed with a number of other aircraft which are also identified.

Mark Proulx

Snautzer 24th October 2017 11:47

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Me262, coded 5, flyable condition, 2 machines https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...0AAOSwHYpZ7n0m

RudiS 24th October 2017 12:58

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
#495: AFAIK WNr 111690 at Fassberg.



Bf 109:
https://4inxlg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://historical-media.com/id10104.htm

Ju 188:
https://4imaqg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://historical-media.com/id10113.htm

He 111 with number 12 on it's tail:
https://4io1cg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
http://historical-media.com/id10114.htm

Regards,
Rudi

ouidjat 24th October 2017 16:21

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
G-2/Trop "Doppelwinkel" was already in auction on eBay.de in March 2016.
But in same album we can find this, completely new photo:

http://historical-media.com/images/2...a/DSC_2628.jpg

"Irmgard", indeed.

Regards, Franck.

Roger Gaemperle 24th October 2017 16:50

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
In post 496: that is not a Ju 188, but a Ju 88 G-6 used by V./NJG 2 for ground attack missions. It's sister aircraft U5+NT and the story behind the V./NJG 2 Ju 88 G-6s is featured in my "Captured Eagles Vol. I" book.

RudiS 24th October 2017 16:57

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Me 262 WNr 112334:
https://4inq5w.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WW...19.m1438.l2649

Do 17(?) - KG 3:
https://4iprww.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

Ju 88 - LG 1:
https://4ip56q.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/22-Original...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi

edwest2 24th October 2017 18:55

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roger Gaemperle (Post 241620)
So, can anybody tell me why this one went so high?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Photogr...53.m1438.l2649

It looks to me like a JG4 RVB. But what else is so special?

Roger



Hello Roger,


There could be a number of reasons: 1) This photo helps to complete a set of other photos of the same aircraft from different angles, 2) the person in the photo could be a relative and this could be the only known photo of him, 3) on occasion, buyers buy what they like without concern for price (for most of us, hard to believe). I recall an old photo of only an aircraft engine sitting on the ground get some bids. No other parts, people, nothing else. The relative distance meant little detail could be seen.



Ed

Marc-André Haldimann 24th October 2017 19:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by edwest2 (Post 241683)
Hello Roger,


There could be a number of reasons: 1) This photo helps to complete a set of other photos of the same aircraft from different angles, 2) the person in the photo could be a relative and this could be the only known photo of him, 3) on occasion, buyers buy what they like without concern for price (for most of us, hard to believe). I recall an old photo of only an aircraft engine sitting on the ground get some bids. No other parts, people, nothing else. The relative distance meant little detail could be seen.



Ed


Hi there folks,

It is highly probable we have here a JG 300 machine as visible from the three segments RVB band hues; hence the value for an updated JG 300 edition.

Cheers
Marc

A new shot from the Fassberg Me 262's, with focus on "Weisse 5", Me 262 A-1 W.Nr. 111690 of 1./JG 7, May 1945.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...0AAOSwHYpZ7n0m

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 24th October 2017 21:02

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Marc plse see post #495. ;-))

Marc-André Haldimann 24th October 2017 22:08

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 241695)
Marc plse see post #495. ;-))

Yup, missed it out; well done Michiel !

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 24th October 2017 22:47

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Glad you take the trouble looking.

Snautzer 24th October 2017 22:53

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Fw190, 1943
  1. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1943or44-WW...8AAOSwU4FZ7Ph8
  2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-WWII-U...sAAOSw9KhZ7O0G
  3. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1943or44-WW...AAAOSwk-1Z7Pkx
Ju290, 1943 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1943or44-WW...kAAOSwEOpZ7PnJ

Snautzer 25th October 2017 12:29

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju52 He129 (bad pic) wreck airfield grave with iron cross U.S.A.A.F. North Africa Italy 1943 11th AIR DEPOT GRP. see pic 6 to 8 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-WW2...sAAOSwehZZ74xw

sirbob 25th October 2017 13:48

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-phot...-/322838964657
https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-pho...-/322838957599

Snautzer 26th October 2017 13:26

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Bf109 wreck scrapyard Yellow (?) 14,
  1. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1945-WWII-P...kAAOSwySlZ8UHr
  2. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1945-WWII-P...0AAOSw-olZ8UGF

ouidjat 26th October 2017 15:44

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
#2 Looks like a K-4.

Marc-André Haldimann 26th October 2017 17:03

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 241779)

1. Seems to be a WNF built G-14 "Gelbe 14", 11./JG 53.
2. I concur, Franck; it could well be a K-4 and it might be the one found at Tarnewitz in May 1945 and also depicted in Noro "LO+ST", p. 18 and here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...57631643405670

Thanks for those, Michiel !
Marc

Snautzer 27th October 2017 00:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Me110, Vultee https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-RPPC-P...wAAOSwe51Z8h7b

ouidjat 27th October 2017 09:19

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 241789)
1. Seems to be a WNF built G-14 "Gelbe 14", 11./JG 53.
2. I concur, Franck; it could well be a K-4 and it might be the one found at Tarnewitz in May 1945 and also depicted in Noro "LO+ST", p. 18 and here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/280920...57631643405670

Thanks for those, Michiel !
Marc

I concur with Marc saying nice constant job Michiel, thanks for this!
As for "Gelbe 14", I prefer a White 14. ;)

Regards, Franck.

RudiS 28th October 2017 15:32

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
V1 Flying bomb:
https://bwqjga.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

Snautzer 28th October 2017 21:13

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Me262 (copy) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Messerschmi...4AAOSwHYpZ81~g
  2. Me262 wrknr 112385 Cockpit (copy) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Messerschmi...UAAOSwqbxZ816s
  3. He219 Usaaf star http://www.ebay.fr/itm/PHOTO-AVION-H...8AAOSwhlZYuThy

Richey4Real 28th October 2017 22:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
From the same seller as the V-1.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...0AAOSwHYpZ7n0m

Snautzer 28th October 2017 22:28

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Richey Plse see post 495.

Snautzer 30th October 2017 10:54

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Fw190, N Africa KM+EY SKg10 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...wAAOSwh1pZ9n1Z
  2. Fw190, N Africa KM+EY SKg10 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...YAAOSwyXNZ9n-O
  3. Bf109, N Africa https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...MAAOSwZqZZ9n0S
  4. Hs129 N Africa https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...IAAOSwUchZ9n2r
  5. Hs129 N Africa https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...4AAOSwIFtZ9kHJ
  6. He111, 1H+? N Africa https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...cAAOSwYeRZ9msX
  7. Macchi C.202 Folgore, N Africa https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...YAAOSw-olZ9kJf

RudiS 30th October 2017 13:12

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 52:
https://bwp0dg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EN02-1940s-...19.m1438.l2649

Ju 290:
https://bwo3rg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EN03-1940s-...19.m1438.l2649

Ju 290 & He 111:
https://bwptlw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EN03-1940s-...19.m1438.l2649

Ju 87:
https://bwoipa.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...19.m1438.l2649

Ju 52:
https://bwp7vq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-GI-...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi

edwest2 30th October 2017 23:43

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
In post #517, number 6 appears to be 1H+D?.




Ed

David E. Brown 31st October 2017 04:41

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ed,

He 111 H-6, 1H+DF, Stab/IV./KG 26, Tunis-El Aouina, Tunisia, May, 1943

David


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