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RudiS 14th November 2017 15:43

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Bf 110:

https://sefjzw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Photo-S...19.m1438.l2649

Ju 88 L1+?W:

https://seet5g.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Photogr...19.m1438.l2649

Bf 110:

https://sefxxq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-TUSKEEG...19.m1438.l2649

2x Ju 88:

https://seguwg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

He 111:

https://sehy0q.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

Bf 109:

https://sehkqw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-leather...vip=true&rt=nc

Regards,
Rudi.

Snautzer 14th November 2017 21:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Bf109 +15 jg53 Washington dc 1943 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-Ge...EAAOSwySlaBpX1
  2. Ju388 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-Ge...UAAOSwbtNaBpTd
  3. Trainer Nurnberg 1945 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...sAAOSwNwlaCvUo
  4. Me110 wrecked Nurnberg 1945 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...YAAOSwHYpaCvVH
For 2 more shots of the bf109 http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showpo...&postcount=560

Snautzer 15th November 2017 11:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. He111 wrknr 8127 Nurnberg 1945 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...sAAOSwUn9aCvU3
  2. He111 wrknr 8127 Nurnberg 1945 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...4AAOSwFb5aCvVW
  3. He111 wrknr 8127 Nurnberg 1945 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...oAAOSwC-taCvUZ
  4. Ju34 Ju88 wreck wing part https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-Of-2-19...8AAOSwTm9aC7DJ

Marc-André Haldimann 16th November 2017 08:20

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Fw 190 D-9 "Weisse 17", 1./JG 2 (?)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-3...oAAOSwJtdaDBaW

Fw 190 F-8 "Schwarze 5", III./SG 1 (?)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-3...sAAOSwz~paDBxH

Si-204
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-1...oAAOSwFyhaDI58

Bf 110 G-4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-3...cAAOSwlptaDF64

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 16th November 2017 10:36

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Further pics from a former 362nd FG personnel:

Fw 190
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-3...EAAOSwc2FaDBO2

Si 204
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-1...4AAOSwOA1aDHz8

Ju 52
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-3...MAAOSwcj1aDATJ

362nd FG was based at:

1. Frankfurt/Rhein-Main until 30 April 1945,
2. Fürth/Industriehafen until 3 May 1945,
3. Illesheim until 12 May 1945,
4. Straubing until 3 September 1945.

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 16th November 2017 15:10

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Photo lot with many wrecked german a/c:

https://fm1zig.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://fm1sqw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://fm0oqw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://fm2pcw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-300-...sAAOSwh1haAIJE

Regards,
Rudi.

edwest2 16th November 2017 20:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Can someone identify the aircraft type that is fourth from the bottom? Thank you, Rudi for posting these.






Ed

Roger Gaemperle 16th November 2017 21:12

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 290 at Brunnthal

edwest2 16th November 2017 22:13

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thank you, Roger.





Ed

RudiS 17th November 2017 15:26

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 88:

https://fm0hua.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLE-...19.m1438.l2649

Me 410:

https://fm2ila.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-German...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

Marc-André Haldimann 20th November 2017 19:08

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Fw 190, Salerno, 11 September 1943
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-WWII-Ph...AAAOSwvApaEeHY

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 20th November 2017 21:35

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
He162 known scene slightly different angle (?) https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugbes...MAAOSwdSRaEyCN

RudiS 21st November 2017 12:52

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Bf 109:
https://fm1llw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-WW...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

Marc-André Haldimann 22nd November 2017 11:20

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Fw 190's and Ar 96, Denmark, 1945 -1946.
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/kultur/hist...gennem-100-aar

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 25th November 2017 16:44

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 88 & Ju 87:
https://eqjl5w.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://eqgwcw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://eqhmxa.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW-2-Origin...19.m1438.l2649

Me 262 WNr 111711:
https://eqgb0q.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/A164-VINTAGE-1945-WWII-UNPAINTED-SURRENDERED-MESSERSCHHMITT-262-35mm-SLIDE/382290121977?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid =p2055119.m1438.l2649"]https://www.ebay.com/itm/A164-VINTAG...19.m1438.l2649[/url]

He 111:
https://eqj6iq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/c1947-Germa...19.m1438.l2649
Regards,
Rudi.

Roger Gaemperle 26th November 2017 09:36

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks. That’s not a Ju 87 but the wreck of an interesting (possibly so far unknown) Fw 190 D with an RVB.

Roger

Marc-André Haldimann 26th November 2017 11:46

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Correct: it is the tail unit of a Fw 190 D-9 of JG 26. The W.Nr. Is almost legible...

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 26th November 2017 13:08

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Marc & Roger for your info.

Regards,
Rudi.

RudiS 27th November 2017 14:04

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Ju 88:
https://eqivqg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-US-Arm...UAAOSwR2RaG0Xu

Wrecks, looks like Trapani:
https://eqgiga.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Great-WWII-...gAAOSwHUhaG5le

He 111 - possibly posted before:
https://eqijja.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Photo-G...MAAOSwX61ZHAUD

Regards,
Rudi

Marc-André Haldimann 28th November 2017 06:52

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
He 111, Ju 188 and He 177, location and date unknown.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wrecked-Capt...MAAOSwyP5aGZxH

Bf 109 G, possibly France, 1944.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soldiers-Wit...IAAOSw1NFaGZzx

Bf 109 G, Great Britain, 1944.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-Ger...kAAOSwnTdaGZdO

Cheers
Marc

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 28th November 2017 11:13

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
edwest2: Si204 https://www.ebay.de/itm/MD065-Foto-W...88-Si204-Typ-M
<ol>Munich-Riem Ta152 me262 Si204 Ju88 Nightfighter Bf109 Late <a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-German-Planes-Munich-Riem-Me-262-Me-109-Fw-190-Original-Large-WW2-Photo/172998363644?hash=item28478189fc:g:0IQAAOSwqbxaGZM T" target="_blank">h

Marc-André Haldimann 29th November 2017 06:45

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
[/quote]
Bf 109 G, possibly France, 1944.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soldiers-Wit...IAAOSw1NFaGZzx
[/quote]

This machine could be Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 413 732 (?) "Schwarze 1", Uffz. Rudolf Weitz, 10./JG 27, Saint-Trond, France, August 1944. Here is another picture of the same wreck from Collection Joe Huarte via seniorfan.com.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7640109612456/

Cheers
Marc

Nick Beale 29th November 2017 08:32

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Bf 109 G, possibly France, 1944.

This machine could be Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 413 732 (?) "Schwarze 1", Uffz. Rudolf Weitz, 10./JG 27, Saint-Trond, France, August 1944.
Cheers
Marc[/quote]

Saint Trond, France? It's in Belgium, isn't it?

Marc-André Haldimann 29th November 2017 10:55

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Beale (Post 243410)
Bf 109 G, possibly France, 1944.

This machine could be Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 413 732 (?) "Schwarze 1", Uffz. Rudolf Weitz, 10./JG 27, Saint-Trond, France, August 1944.
Cheers
Marc

Saint Trond, France? It's in Belgium, isn't it?[/quote]

Ah darn, my mistake ! Thanks, Nick, much appreciated.

Marc

Snautzer 29th November 2017 11:30

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Junkers Ju-188 and Messerschmitt Bf-109, Fw-190 at Erfurt, Germany 1945 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Junkers-Ju-...sAAOSwv~1aHFit

RudiS 29th November 2017 12:05

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hs 129:
https://4ioj0a.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WWII-phot...EAAOSwRbtaHMQ~

Fw 200:
https://4imkrq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WWII-phot...UAAOSwFb5aHMN1

Ju 88 at Melun:
https://4ioquq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WWII-phot...IAAOSwc2FaHKlL

Fw 190:
https://4imdqg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-Ge...wAAOSw0A9aGZbZ

Fw 190 & Ju 88:
https://4io4cg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-Ge...0AAOSwc2FaGZZq

Ju 88:
https://4int5w.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Captured-Ge...sAAOSw3fZaGZV5

Regards,
Rudi

Marc-André Haldimann 29th November 2017 16:44

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 243416)
Junkers Ju-188 and Messerschmitt Bf-109, Fw-190 at Erfurt, Germany 1945 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Junkers-Ju-...sAAOSwv~1aHFit

The 109 is possibly Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 510 818 (?), unit unknown, Erfurt-Bindersleben, May 1945. W.Nr. hypothesis thanks to Technical Intelligence Report RA-381, courtesy of Daedalus, LEMB Forum, 1 December 2013.

Photo is U.S. Signal Corps no 76649A.C. publicly accessible via footnote.com.

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 30th November 2017 11:30

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Bf109E-4 RAF Enemy Flight https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ww2-Us-Phot...kAAOSwQS1aGLgZ
  2. Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ww2-Us-Phot...0AAOSwdSRaGTGV

Marc-André Haldimann 30th November 2017 15:48

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
He 111 H, Ju 52, Ju 88 and Bf 109 G/R6, Cagliari, Sardegna, Summer 1943.
http://sardegna.admaioramedia.it/wp-....4-600x420.jpg

Cheers
Marc

Tom Willis 30th November 2017 21:36

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
The Hs129 is most likely to be BH+ZQ - W/Nr.141256. Can anybody confirm this and know the location where this was found.

Thanks - Tom

Snautzer 30th November 2017 22:42

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Fi156 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Photo-b...AAAOSwI59aHyvg
  2. He111 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Photo-b...kAAOSwK~RaHy3S

Snautzer 1st December 2017 10:23

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Bf109 Lüneburg Celle May 45 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Luneburg-Cel...EAAOSwnCFaHw6F
  2. Fw200 Lüneburg Celle May 45 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Celle-Mai-45...sAAOSwUchaHsNr
  3. Savoia SM82 Lüneburg Celle May 45 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Luneburg-Cel...sAAOSwvfZaHw-z

canonne 2nd December 2017 09:26

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Please excuse me if you described this photo previously.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Reichsvertei...53.m1438.l2649

Please is it a G-6 from a training unit according to the 3 digits ?
"337" or "387" ...

What about its camouflage ?

Thank you

Philippe

Marc-André Haldimann 2nd December 2017 20:40

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by canonne (Post 243563)
Please excuse me if you described this photo previously.

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Reichsvertei...53.m1438.l2649

Please is it a G-6 from a training unit according to the 3 digits ?
"337" or "387" ...

What about its camouflage ?

Thank you

Philippe

Hi there Philippe, this fuselage camouflage pattern is a late war variant seen on some machines starting in January 1945. Here are two examples I know of:

1. Wertheim, January 1945:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7631641190814/

2. Illesheim, May 1945:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7650505265080/

Nothing clear about which producer did introduce it, or - as Anders Hjortsberg points - which repair depot. As for the tactical markings, it is definitely a training unit. Photos available do point towards JG 102, but beware - no certainty. The best comparison is this shot:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7640125239846/

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 3rd December 2017 13:53

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
FW 200:
https://4ipuww.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-...kAAOSwBkRaISoy

Ju 88 L1+EH:
https://4inhdq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-...wAAOSwdnZaISzV

wrecked Ju 88:
https://4ip86q.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-...IAAOSwyGZaITJ1

Regards,
Rudi.

Marc-André Haldimann 3rd December 2017 15:03

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
thanks for those, RudiS; here some more:

IMHO an Ago built Fw 190 A-9:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...4AAOSwb3laHb-f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...0AAOSwW6BaIkGs
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...UAAOSwVA5aIkF4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...EAAOSw0wRaIkER

Bü 181:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...0AAOSwHNxaIk3J
http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-U...sAAOSwLJ9aIkxA

Cheers
Marc

D.B. Andrus 3rd December 2017 17:48

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 243582)
Hi there Philippe, this fuselage camouflage pattern is a late war variant seen on some machines starting in January 1945. Here are two examples I know of:

1. Wertheim, January 1945:
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/5258785826/in/album-72157631641190814/

2. Illesheim, May 1945:
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/21044170706/in/album-72157650505265080/

Nothing clear about which producer did introduce it, or - as Anders Hjortsberg points - which repair depot. As for the tactical markings, it is definitely a training unit. Photos available do point towards JG 102, but beware - no certainty. The best comparison is this shot:
www.flickr.com/photos/28092068@N03/26027125796/in/album-72157640125239846/

Cheers
Marc


Marc

This camouflage pattern is a similar pattern to which Erla used.

Cheers,
D.B.

Rasmussen 3rd December 2017 18:55

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 243582)
As for the tactical markings, it is definitely a training unit. Photos available do point towards JG 102, but beware - no certainty.

Regarding Gerhard Stemmer this was likely an "yellow 387" because the JG 104 adapted in August 1044 an three digit tactical number system for each Staffel. In 3.Staffel were used the numbers 301-340 for older Bf 109G types and the G-12, followed by 30 numbers for Ar 96 and then 370 - 396 for G-6 and G-14.

Jerry Crandall 3rd December 2017 19:25

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Marc, That Fw 190 is set up to carry bombs so it's probably an F-8 or F-9
Cheers, Jerry

S Sheflin 4th December 2017 03:27

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Marc and Jerry,

Jerry, you may be correct regarding the Fw 190 in Post #596 being an F-8 or F-9. However, if you are suggesting that it is, “is set up to carry bombs,” due to the apparent lack of an Fw 190 A Morane mast, it may also be an Fw 190 A-8 mistel upper component. A nice shot from the front would easily clear-up this conundrum.

Respectfully,

Steve Sheflin


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