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Marc-André Haldimann 28th December 2018 17:56

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
All photos were taken at Saint-Dizier, France, between 30 August and late 1944:

Aerial photo of the Saint-Dizier, aérodrome du Robinson:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe...s/image24.html
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe...s/image25.html
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe...20-%200003.jpg

Bf 109 G-6 W. Nr. unknown "Gelbe 14" "TT+EO":
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0152.jpg

Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163 884 "Rote (?) 2", 6./JG 27:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0153.jpg

Bf 110 G-2 "C9+IK", 2./NJG 5:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0102.jpg
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0103.jpg

Bf 110 G-2, possibly I./N JG 5:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0104.jpg
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0107.jpg
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0108.jpg
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0150.jpg

Fw 190 A:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0111.jpg

Ju 52:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0200.jpg

Ju 88 A (?):
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0101.jpg

Ju 88 G, possibly "C9+GH", 1./NJG 5:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0100.jpg

Ju 88 G-1 W.N.r 71x xxx (illegible), possibly "C9+DH", 2./NJG 5:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe...20-%200001.jpg

Ju 88 G-1, possibly I./NJG 5:
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0106.jpg
https://www.saint-dizier-ww2.fr/libe.../1944-0110.jpg

Cheers
Marc

ArtieBob 28th December 2018 21:17

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Jim Crow collection has 5 images of the Ju 88 identified as C9+DH, it appears from these the W.Nr. is 714084. The Ju 88 tentatively identified as an "A" I would guess was more likely an "S" or "T" based on the nose enclosure.

Best Regards,

ArtieBob

Marc-André Haldimann 29th December 2018 15:35

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Artie, for this appreciated confirmation. Good to know that I./JG 5 did actually receive it's first Ju 88 G-1's already whilst being based at Saint-Dizier; I was unsure of that.

As for the Ju 88 "A", I first thought of the "S" variant but was troubled by seeing the visor housing under the cabin. Is this a common Ju 88 S or T feature ?

Cheers
Marc

ArtieBob 30th December 2018 14:43

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Dear Marc-Andre,


I didn't look close enough, missed the housing for the bomb sight optics which would pretty much confirm the Ju 88 would be a bomber "S".


Best regards,


Artie Bob

RudiS 30th December 2018 14:58

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
https://syrwwa.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ww...S/254044827148

https://syqlzq.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ww...S/283320929335

https://syq6bw.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Junkers-JU-...5/392203449616

https://sypv5a.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-GERMAN-...2/123570093482

RudiS 2nd January 2019 12:57

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Does anyone have an ID on this Me 262?
https://unh4vq.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-3-Orig...s/273635069343

https://unfd4q.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Origina...s/254047482820

Revi16 2nd January 2019 15:01

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 

The Ju 52 pic is a photo from the Army Signal Corps collection available at NARA.


With and without snow.
(You'll notice in the snow photo that the description lists it as a FW 190, but the photo number 190060-s is the same on the front and back of the photo. Mis-identification on photos isn't that uncommon. NARA tends to leave the original WWII description "as is" whether right or wrong.

ouidjat 2nd January 2019 17:46

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hi Gents,

Thanks Rudi for your amazing finds...; And all my best wishes for 2019.

A new photo of a well known Me262 wreck and much pictured one on Augsburg-München highway .. but no ID so far.

As for the G-6, we think it's a TS+MB at Schlessheim of T.S.(3).

Regards,
Franck.

Marc-André Haldimann 2nd January 2019 18:59

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 263071)
Hi Gents,

Thanks Rudi for your amazing finds...; And all my best wishes for 2019.

A new photo of a well known Me262 wreck and much pictured one on Augsburg-München highway .. but no ID so far.

As for the G-6, we think it's a TS+MB at Schlessheim of T.S.(3).

Regards,
Franck.

Hello Gang,

Further to your ID, Franck, here is an aerial shot of Fliegertechnischen Schule 3, Schleissheim, May 1945. Source: photo Klaus Mai via https://www.wochenanzeiger.de/article/141279.html

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 3rd January 2019 20:30

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Some more photos with W.Nr. questions:

1. Fw 190 F-8 W.Nr. 933426 "Gelbe 9", II./JG ?:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-190-404341834

2. Fw 190 A-8 W.Nr. 171680, II./JG ?
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...original-photo

3. Fw 190 D-9, possibly W.Nr. 211046, JG 26.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...hter-133099978

Any informations known ?

Thanks in advance
Marc


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