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ouidjat 4th December 2017 11:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasmussen (Post 243623)
Regarding Gerhard Stemmer this was likely an "yellow 387" because the JG 104 adapted in August 1044 an three digit tactical number system for each Staffel. In 3.Staffel were used the numbers 301-340 for older Bf 109G types and the G-12, followed by 30 numbers for Ar 96 and then 370 - 396 for G-6 and G-14.

Yes indeed ... But as early as August 1044 ? ;) Wow, Gerhard has a documentation no one else got !

Marc-André Haldimann 4th December 2017 11:27

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
@ D.B.: It is similar yet different; it is not unlike the last camouflage variant of AGO Oschersleben built Fw 190's...

@Jerry and Steve: thanks for your inputs, guys. Hoping for a confirming shot of this same machine...

@Rasmussen: Danke Jörn, this pretty much settles the case; could you share Stemmer's reference ? Which book ?

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 4th December 2017 12:47

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Bf 109:
https://bwqmga.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-802nd-...sAAOSwa81aIt3M

Regards,
Rudi.

Marc-André Haldimann 4th December 2017 14:33

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 243652)

A highly interesting shot of a late war Bf 109 G-6 or G-14, possibly produced by Mtt. The partly painted out IV. Gruppe bar is of interest, as the crudely applied RVB band (?) is. You have also three further pics of wrecked Bf 109's, the most explicit one showing possibly a Bf 109 K-4.

Thanks RudiS !
Marc

RudiS 4th December 2017 15:27

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 243657)
Thanks RudiS !
Marc

My pleasure.
Regards,
Rudi

Rasmussen 4th December 2017 16:46

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 243651)
@Rasmussen: Danke Jörn, this pretty much settles the case; could you share Stemmer's reference ? Which book ?

Jörg ;)

Unfortunately not because he wrote himself this in the LRG-forum ...

Marc-André Haldimann 4th December 2017 17:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks for the heads-up, Jörg !

Cheers
Marc

ouidjat 5th December 2017 10:18

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasmussen (Post 243623)
Regarding Gerhard Stemmer this was likely an "yellow 387" because the JG 104 adapted in August 1044 an three digit tactical number system for each Staffel. In 3.Staffel were used the numbers 301-340 for older Bf 109G types and the G-12, followed by 30 numbers for Ar 96 and then 370 - 396 for G-6 and G-14.

Hummm ... Whatever the colour of code number ?

Snautzer 5th December 2017 11:40

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Bf109 1945 https://www.ebay.de/itm/US-Foto-GI-a...4AAOSwjM5aJVFF
  2. Ju87 Africa https://www.ebay.de/itm/2-US-Fotos-U...UAAOSwoVNaJVPj

Snautzer 5th December 2017 22:30

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Bu181 https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...sAAOSwLJ9aIkxA
  2. Wreck trainer https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...0AAOSwHNxaIk3J

Marc-André Haldimann 5th December 2017 23:07

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
A unique collection of 1945 postwar scrapping of Luftwaffe planes in:
- Brunnthal
- Bad Aibling
- Mühldorf Mettenheim
- Neubiberg
- Ainring

in this 400+ photos album of Lt. Col. Alan D. CATTERALL, courtesy of historical media.com:
http://www.historical-media.com/id1081.htm

Cheers
Marc

Steve Coates 6th December 2017 00:23

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
A reasonable deal for whoever purchased this.

Marc-André Haldimann 7th December 2017 07:41

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Me 410 W.Nr. 130 738, 13 June 1945.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131-WWII-90t...8AAOSwO9JaKJhu

Fw 190
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132-WWII-90t...cAAOSw8UZaKJiK

Cheers
Marc

PMoz99 7th December 2017 08:09

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Re the FW190-
Is that a 30mm cannon in the outer wing position??!
190A-8/R2 or maybe even a 190A-10? Or did the A-10 30mm barrels protrude more?
Peter

Micke D 7th December 2017 13:46

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
It’s an early model Fw 190 with a broken MG 151 barrel and the camera opening.
From what I know there was no Fw 190A-10s built.

Snautzer 8th December 2017 11:55

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  1. Ju88 Africa HA+MH Aufkl.Gr(F)121 https://www.ebay.de/itm/Orig-Foto-Fl...4AAOSwR6RaKGk6

gogh 8th December 2017 13:34

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post 616 HA+MH is 7A+MH

Snautzer 11th December 2017 11:28

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  1. Bf109 JG53 Sicily https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-...AAAOSwiIxaLaE-

Snautzer 12th December 2017 11:24

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  1. Bf109F RAF roundel black 6 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-AIRCR...0AAOSwPAxZ74ty
  2. Wreckage, tail wrknr 430115 (?) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...IAAOSw9mpaL19k
  3. Bf109 hull wreck https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...0AAOSwqbxaI4hM
  4. Fw190 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...AAAOSw6DVaL149

RudiS 12th December 2017 13:46

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Ju 88:
https://bwpbjq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

jednastka 13th December 2017 01:27

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann (Post 243750)
A unique collection of 1945 postwar scrapping of Luftwaffe planes in:
- Brunnthal
- Bad Aibling
- Mühldorf Mettenheim
- Neubiberg
- Ainring

in this 400+ photos album of Lt. Col. Alan D. CATTERALL, courtesy of historical media.com:
http://www.historical-media.com/id1081.htm

Cheers
Marc

About half way through the photos is one (and a close-up) of a flying Do-335. Not many of these around!

Vic

Marc-André Haldimann 15th December 2017 16:30

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Some very good color footage, May 1945. Only known to me location is Altenburg Forest.

http://www.history-vision.de/histori...ear_to%5D=2017
http://www.history-vision.de/histori...ear_to%5D=2017
http://www.history-vision.de/histori...ear_to%5D=2017

Fürth-Atzenhof (?) with possibly 3./JG 104 machines:
http://www.history-vision.de/histori...ear_to%5D=2017

Berlin:
http://www.history-vision.de/histori...ear_to%5D=2017

Cheers
Marc

edNorth 15th December 2017 20:47

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http://frontend.history-vision.de/se...html5=0&pool=0

Fw 200 C (twin wheels?) code " +N " (F8+NT) at 1:47

Snautzer 16th December 2017 13:42

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  1. Fw190 90th infantry https://www.ebay.com/itm/164-WWII-90...0AAOSwnw9aMb9h

RudiS 16th December 2017 14:03

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Fw190:
https://bwrcaq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW2-PHOTO...UAAOSw9mpaMlqT

Regards,
Rudi.

edNorth 16th December 2017 14:41

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#623
0071 was damaged Tempelhof 02.45.

Snautzer 17th December 2017 22:27

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  1. Me262 1946-47 Wright Patterson field https://www.ebay.com/itm/Me262-jet-a...kAAOSwkLhaNp~i

Marc-André Haldimann 18th December 2017 10:43

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He 111 H, Brunnthal
http://www.ebay.de/itm/ORIG-2WK-US-S...IAAOSwY~1aM9XB

Brunnthal junk pile seen from the Ju 290
http://www.ebay.de/itm/ORIG-2WK-US-S...EAAOSwviJaMtR7

Possibly Bad Aibling ?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/ORIG-2WK-US-S...EAAOSwQS1aM9Ts

Cheers
Marc

lumabe 18th December 2017 11:41

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Hello, Marc-André,

Bad-Aibling ? Hum, some Henschel 126 look like at Klagenfuth, aren't you ?

Best regards

Lumabe.

RudiS 18th December 2017 13:32

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Wrecks:
https://bwp3dg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://bwo6rg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Army-Ai...cAAOSwsFpaNbJ6

Regards,
Rudi.

Marc-André Haldimann 19th December 2017 10:46

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lumabe (Post 244346)
Hello, Marc-André,

Bad-Aibling ? Hum, some Henschel 126 look like at Klagenfuth, aren't you ?

Best regards

Lumabe.

Hi there Lumabe,

unsure about the actual location indeed. Klagenfurt with its alpine proximity would not really fit for this visible scenery. Beyond that point, no Bf 109's, Bf 110's nor Fw 190's are documented to my knowledge in Klagenfurt..

Cheers
Marc

Snautzer 20th December 2017 12:02

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
  1. Ju88 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-gr...8AAOSwY~1aOeH1
  2. Ju52 9P+LR https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...MAAOSwAaJaOd7x
  3. Me410 airfield near Bf109 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-ph...8AAOSwPzhaOd0G

RudiS 21st December 2017 16:16

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Ju 88:Better scan then the photo in post #561
https://bwrvug.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://bwolpa.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-Strafed...0AAOSwbihaOY3m

Regards,
Rudi

Snautzer 21st December 2017 22:36

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  1. FW190 RAF roundels 1942 https://www.ebay.com/itm/1942-Press-...EAAOSwnCFaOx3o

ChrisMAg2 22nd December 2017 09:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Snautzer (Post 244530)

That is RAE MP499.

Snautzer 22nd December 2017 12:46

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  1. He111 wrknr 8209 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-gr...8AAOSwUchaPH3e
  2. Do17 wrknr visible https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-gr...MAAOSwySVaPHzB

RudiS 28th December 2017 17:50

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Fw 190:
https://fm1rqw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649
https://fm2ocw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

Mistel:
https://fm0gua.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

Ju 87:
https://fm2hla.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

Bf 109:
https://fm08oq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

https://fm2vug.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

Me 262:
https://fm1klw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

Fw 190 & Ju 88:
https://eqgvcw.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

Fw 190 & V1:
https://eqjk5w.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-German-...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.

Marc-André Haldimann 29th December 2017 18:33

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RudiS (Post 244804)

Thanks for your posts Rudi and Snautzer, they are much appreciated.

Further to this nosed over Bf 109: Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 165 565, found at Augsburg, May 1945.

Cheers
Marc

Marc-André Haldimann 29th December 2017 19:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
And another shot of the Brunnthal collection point, Summer 1945.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-GERM...sAAOSwXCBaRGIr

Cheers
Marc

RudiS 30th December 2017 17:27

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different type a/c:
https://eqhlxa.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Origin...19.m1438.l2649

Ju 52:
https://eqga0q.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-Origin...19.m1438.l2649

wrecks:
https://eqjdoa.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-origin...19.m1438.l2649

Bf 109:
https://eqhefq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-of...19.m1438.l2649

https://eqj5iq.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...19.m1438.l2649

jet engines:
https://eqiuqg.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...19.m1438.l2649

https://eqghga.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-photo-...19.m1438.l2649

Ju 52:
https://eqiija.bn1302.livefilestore....&cropmode=none
https://www.ebay.com/itm/WWII-RARE-P...19.m1438.l2649

Regards,
Rudi.


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