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Hello Tom,

PN+LE is wrong. The SKZ given by Eric are the right ones.
There are more a/c with TN+L on the following pages.
The Aslau plant was used by Fw, not by AGO.
Unfortunately I have no SKZ in this block, but according to the time of manufacture it may be A-8 from the block 350xxx.
Regards
Dirk

John Vasco

15th June 2020 15:41

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Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 290457)

Yes, I DO SEE the connection John but "IS THAT SYMBOL ON HE 111 RUDDER A REALLY STAB SYMBOL" or another thing with another meaning since I never seen stab symbol on bombers' rudders.
Is it so difficult to understand ? :)

Neither have I. But with the Luftwaffe, anything is possible. Is it not impossible that that a stab symbol has been placed on the rudder? Is it so difficult to understand?

Fucks sake!!!

Tom Willis

15th June 2020 21:46

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Hi Dirk - Post 1721 - Thanks for putting me back on track. My Stkz info in the PN+L series is valid but not in this respect of the Spremberg Flugbuch data. I have had another 'closer' look and can now see that it should read as TN+LE. I have no extra copies that give any more Stkz in the TN+L series so any chance in seeing these to expand the series range. Thanks. I have had a look at the Fw190A-8 W/Nr.range of 350... for FW at Aslau and there are not that many but I could be wrong - 350151 to 350300. These include Stkz ranges of VI+Q and CS+I series of Fw 190 prototypes
Thanks again - Tom

ouidjat

15th June 2020 22:23

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Originally Posted by John Vasco (Post 290472)

Neither have I. But with the Luftwaffe, anything is possible. Is it not impossible that that a stab symbol has been placed on the rudder? Is it so difficult to understand?

Fucks sake!!!

Okay,
does one fellow member know another example of He 111, Ju 88 ... wearing a Stab symbol on rudder ? :)
Regards,
Franck.

edwest2

15th June 2020 23:30

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Snautzer

16th June 2020 11:40

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Smithsonian German Fighter Manual Listings https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/thread.../#post-1562448

Smithsonian German Fighter Manual Listings

Bf 109 F G K Me 209 210 262 410
Fw 190 A B C D F G Ta 152 Me 109 209 309
Fw 190 A B C D F G Ta 152 Me 109 209 309 Fw190D and F Fw254 Ta152 Ta154 Me109K Me209

samples

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attach...02-jpg.585210/

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attach...01-jpg.585209/

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Snautzer

16th June 2020 12:25

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https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Flugzeu...YAAOSwWVxe57cE

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/h4YAA...cE/s-l1600.jpg

John Vasco

16th June 2020 14:47

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Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 290486)

Okay,
does one fellow member know another example of He 111, Ju 88 ... wearing a Stab symbol on rudder ? :)
Regards,
Franck.

That is NOT the point, Franck! Can you not see that?

It is a TO symbol normally seen on 109s, but that symbol is seen here on a He 111 rudder. A potential 'one-off', or a marking not previously seen. THAT is the point!

Jeez, how much more explaining do I have to give you!!!

edwest2

17th June 2020 00:27

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13starsinax

17th June 2020 06:08

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Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 290367)

Thanks John,
Yes, but that wasn't my question.
I think It should be better to ask if this KG53 He 111 ( I don't think it is a JU 88) for which the WNr. is perfectly readable was, or wasn't, a Stab machine; if yes, of course it was TO machine. ;)
Regards,
Franck.

I think it is a He-111, and I have seen them mark the stab planes as in that picture before. Stab planes can have markings were you would least expect them.

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