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edwest2 27th April 2019 00:35

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Reference to post 1741. The fuselage code appears to me to be 1F+CE.

Stig Jarlevik 27th April 2019 10:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Both Eds give valid points regarding the code seen on this aircraft.
However, if we take into account a certain wrinkling and cracking during the crash landing the last two letters could actually be CS if we also consider that somewhat angular templets could have been used.

Reading codes (serial numbers) on crashed aircraft are notoriously difficult.

Cheers
Stig

RudiS 27th April 2019 14:47

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ouidjat 27th April 2019 18:00

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks Rudi.
A brand new photo - at least for me - the second one - of that E-7/Trop of Jabogruppe Afrika.
Eventually I./Sch.G 2

Here we can see its complete former unit marking: S9+CC of 8./ZG1. Correction S9+CS.
Other photo in Prien's JFV Teil8.I page 361.

"Schwarze 15" a G-4/Trop of 5./JG53, Comiso, July 1943.

RudiS 27th April 2019 20:48

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Thanks for the info, Franck. Very much appreciated.

ouidjat 27th April 2019 21:09

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
My pleasure Rudi.

ArtieBob 28th April 2019 04:43

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Re#1741: I agree with Stig that the most likely code was 1H+CS, as there are documented occasions where Staffels used an aircraft with another Staffel's code and I feel the "Achtung-Torpedo Los" to be a well researched book. I believe
that Ed North is correct on the sub-type, A-14, as it appears a Kutonase was installed. The listing of A-14s as A-4s seems to be a common mistake in some Luftwaffe documents, so even primary documents can be wrong on this
minor point.

ArtieBob

Col Bruggy 28th April 2019 05:14

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ouidjat (Post 268177)
Thanks Rudi.
A brand new photo - at least for me - the second one - of that E-7/Trop of Jabogruppe Afrika.
Eventually I./Sch.G 2

Here we can see its complete former unit marking: S9+CC of 8./ZG1.
Other photo in Prien's JFV Teil8.I page 361.

"Schwarze 15" a G-4/Trop of 5./JG53, Comiso, July 1943.

S9+CC ?

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/make...-zg-1--1129177

OK, not the greatest reference, but the company must have based their research on something.

Col.

ouidjat 28th April 2019 11:11

Re: eBAy: Captured german planes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Col Bruggy (Post 268198)
S9+CC ?

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/make...-zg-1--1129177

OK, not the greatest reference, but the company must have based their research on something.

Col.


Completely Col
You are totally right and obviously it's a bad reading.
When taking a deep breath I can read C9+CS on this new picture, too, not S9+CC.
And since the last code letters were R, S & T for 7, 8 & 9 Staffel respectively ...
My mistake. I'll try to not repeat it :)
Thanks again.

Regards,
Franck.

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