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Pilot 20th September 2007 21:35

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
Interesting- long time ago I have find info about captured Yugoslav airplane also painted black by Germans.

Skyraider3D 21st September 2007 01:03

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by veltro (Post 50853)
Speaking of colors, many of us certainly recall the fantasious color description of Bf 109 and Fw190 camouflages (including the mythical "all yellow 190"...) in the otherwise wonderful "The Big Show" by Pierre Clostermann.

Yes I remember. Green and ocre they were, with yellow bellies! :)
I have my own little theory for that one. When you look at a blue sky for a long time, everything else tends to get yellow. Add yellow to two tones of grey (RLM 74/75) and you might actually see something that's green with ocre and a yellow belly.

Here's a nice related optical illusion: http://www.echalk.co.uk/amusements/O...erception.html (choose Colour Perception)
Notice how "RLM 74" goes all ocre on your eyes when surrounded by "sky"! :D

fsbofk 21st September 2007 04:39

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
Pretty interesting optical illusions - the spinning spiral and back-of-the-hand is a weird one !

Frank Olynyk 21st September 2007 08:08

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
Skyraider,
With regard to your question several posts back, about the June 9, 1945 entry for a damaged Me-109 for Robert Wiggins, this is indeed a typo, and it should be 1944.

I would also note elsewhere on that page, that at the top they show Lee Archer with 5 victories, and at the bottom with 4.5. His correct score is 4; the entry at the top for July 20, 1944 is incorrect. His Form 5 does not show a flight on this date, nor does the mission report for this date list a victory. The error comes from Francis' history of the Tuskeegee airmen, who misread a very unofficial list.

Frank.

Franek Grabowski 21st September 2007 20:18

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyraider3D (Post 50884)
Yes I remember. Green and ocre they were, with yellow bellies! :)
I have my own little theory for that one. When you look at a blue sky for a long time, everything else tends to get yellow. Add yellow to two tones of grey (RLM 74/75) and you might actually see something that's green with ocre and a yellow belly.

Here's a nice related optical illusion: http://www.echalk.co.uk/amusements/O...erception.html (choose Colour Perception)
Notice how "RLM 74" goes all ocre on your eyes when surrounded by "sky"! :D

I knew it must have been some form of optical illusion, but did not know that explanation is so simple! :D
If you could only expand it in a more scientific way, with some more samples of such illusions... :)

dora9forever 22nd September 2007 13:00

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
on the black mustang erm might be a captured yak.
as ive read in many books too many"" some Italian planes were seen over berlin re 2000--- re 2005. and some all black painted me 109s .
GARY.

shooshoobaby 22nd September 2007 19:08

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
As in my Previous Post-
My Father and Kelly Gross both are 100% Positive the " Black "
Fighter they encountered was a P - 51.
Mike

Kutscha 22nd September 2007 20:17

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
Didn't the Finns claim some 'Russian' P-51s?

dora9forever 22nd September 2007 21:36

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shooshoobaby (Post 50978)
As in my Previous Post-
My Father and Kelly Gross both are 100% Positive the " Black "
Fighter they encountered was a P - 51.
Mike

well thats something new for me that i never known amazing stuff.
well good read.
thanks GARY

dora9forever 22nd September 2007 21:42

Re: All-black captured Mustang?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kutscha (Post 50982)
Didn't the Finns claim some 'Russian' P-51s?

on Russian p51ps not as i know of the RAF gave them 10 p51 A models.
thats a mystery for lease lend a book im reading now.
and 200 p47s.
GARY.


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