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Leo Etgen 4th January 2008 17:30

III./JG 51 Losses
 
Hi guys

Congratulations to Eugen for his efforts. Concerning the combat of 5 July 1943 it appears that there are no losses listed for III./JG 51 that day. The losses that I have for JG 51 are:

Fw 190 A-5 "White 5" (W.Nr. 0157 248) flown by Feldwebel Josef Jennewein of 1./JG 51 damaged by Flak over Sloboda 20%
Fw 190 A-5 (W.Nr. 0157 210) of 2./JG 51 damaged by groundfire over Sloboda 30%
Fw 190 A-4 (W.Nr. 0147 124) of 2./JG 51 suffered technical damage at PQ 63 371 15%

I hope that you guys find this interesting. Many thanks for the details on the aerial combat.

Horrido!

Leo

Ota Jirovec 4th January 2008 22:14

Re: VVS Top pilots: some tables from M.Bykov's book
 
Hello Leo,

Actually, there were several losses reported by III./JG 51 on 5 July 1943. The excellent site of Pawel Burchard provides the following losses of III. Gruppe on this date:

5/7/1943 Fw 190A-5 W.Nr. 7353 7./J.G. 51
Feindbeschuss Slowitzki 80% F
5/7/1943 Fw 190A-5 W.Nr. 7284 8./J.G. 51
Feindbeschuss, Pl.Qu. 63359 15% F
5/7/1943 Fw 190A-5 W.Nr. 7282 8./J.G. 51
Bracke, Fw. Walter -- verwundet
Feindbeschuss, Pl.Qu. 63322 100% F
5/7/1943 Fw 190A-4 W.Nr. 2426 (braun 7) 9./J.G. 51 -- G.Aders says 3./J.G. 51 (braun)
Schmitz, Uffz. Hermann -- vermisst
Luftkampf. N Maloarchangelsk 100% F

As this was a very hectic day, I would be very careful in drawing any conclusions on who could have shot down who.

Hope this helps a little,

Ota

Leo Etgen 5th January 2008 01:38

JG 51 Losses
 
Hello Ota

Many thanks for the additional III./JG 51 losses. Like you, I wonder how Gorbach concluded that Strassl was the one who shot down Kapitan Vladimir Zalevskiy. Are there any additional details that could prove this was the case?

Horrido!

Leo

Nokose 5th January 2008 18:55

Re: VVS Top pilots: some tables from M.Bykov's book
 
Michal, Thanks for the reply. There seems to be some websites with Kozachenko being shot down by fighters and making a ramming for his 16th victory before going to his death. They also have him in listed in a Yak-9D or Airacobra. One even suriving and doing service in the Middle East.

strafer 7th January 2008 13:28

Re: VVS Top pilots: some tables from M.Bykov's book
 
Dear all, is there any info on Soviet fighters' ground kills???
Regards, Filip

Evgeny Velichko 8th January 2008 22:25

Re: VVS Top pilots: some tables from M.Bykov's book
 
Wow!!!!

So much answers in tyhis thread :)

Today at least I bought a new PC :) And have a lot to do...

Just a little answer: Last air combat of Kap. Zalevskiy was over Maloarkhangelsk area, there he was lost.

First claims of III./JG 51 at that day:
05.07.43 Fw. Hubert Strassl 8./JG 51 MiG-3 ( 63 651 at 1.500 m. 03.48 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 340
05.07.43 Fw. Hubert Strassl 8./JG 51 MiG-3 ( 63 631 at 2.500 m. 03.50 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 341

Losses:
1 lost over Malo, 2 x damaged in 63 (and around) grid. So... COULD BE :)

Nokose 18th January 2008 22:46

Re: VVS Top pilots: some tables from M.Bykov's book
 
Could some one provide the claims and info on Vitaly I. Klimenko who started the war on 22Jun41 with the 10 IAP. I read his story in "Barbarossa & The Retreat to Moscow" by Artem Drabkin which was in interview form.

Evgeny Velichko 19th January 2008 09:04

Re: VVS Top pilots: some tables from M.Bykov's book
 
Vitaliy Klimenko
Ltn.
1920

10 iap - june - november 1941 - I-16, MiG-3
1 giap - nov. 1941 - sept. 1943 - Hurricane, Yak-7, Yak-1

Claimlist:
02.08.42 - 1 Ju88 - Rzhev area
05.08.42 - 1 Ju88 - Rzhev area
06.08.42 - 1 Ju88 - Rzhev area
23.01.43 - 1 Fw190 - N Sinyavino
23.01.43 - 1/shared Fw190 - Sinyavino
11.02.43 - 1 Hs126 - Peljgora
19.02.43 - 1 Fw190 - N Pogostje
19.01.43 - 2/shared Fw190 - Sinyavino
24.02.43 - 1 Fw190 - N Sinyavino
05.07.43 - 2 Fw190 - Zhizdra area
19.07.43 - 1 Fw190 - Gorodok
27.07.43 - Ju88 - Krasnikovo
31.07.43 - Ju87 - Dudorovka
02.08.43 - 1 Fw190 - Umrikhino
15.08.43 - 3/shared Fw190 - Khotynetz area
-------------
Total victories: 13+6
Combat missions: 335
Aircombats: 42

Awards: 2 x Order of Red Banner, Order of Patriothic War I class, Medals.

Evgeny Velichko 30th March 2008 09:18

Re: VVS Top pilots: some tables from M.Bykov's book
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fairlop (Post 57103)
Hi Eugen,

Very interesting. Are you preparing some web with these list ?

Regards,
Michal

No, but I will be pleased if this info will be used somebody on any webpages :)


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