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Kurfürst 27th January 2008 12:40

Re: Bf 109E-4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RT (Post 58576)
It seems that some E-4 wore the old canopy, concerning the armament, not sure that before the introduction of the M-geschoss the 2+2 was better than 4 MG17..

Remi


I suspect those 'E-4' with the old canopy are in many cases E-3s... the August 1940 strenght reports show large number of E-1s and E-4s and few E-3s around - the only logical conclusion is that many E-3s after getting the MG-FF/M were also 'officially' restamped/designated as E-4s.

Out of curiousity, which version of the DB 601A did the E-4s gets? A-1 or Aa? I believe the E-7s had the Aa as standard.

ju55dk 27th January 2008 13:06

Re: Bf 109E-4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurfürst (Post 58669)
I suspect those 'E-4' with the old canopy are in many cases E-3s... the August 1940 strenght reports show large number of E-1s and E-4s and few E-3s around - the only logical conclusion is that many E-3s after getting the MG-FF/M were also 'officially' restamped/designated as E-4s.

Out of curiousity, which version of the DB 601A did the E-4s gets? A-1 or Aa? I believe the E-7s had the Aa as standard.

Just look at the official Luftwaffe list over aircrafttypes from april 1941!!!!!

Junker

Pathfinder 2nd February 2008 23:01

Re: Bf 109E-4
 
Just a thought, but didn't the E-4 have the nose-cannon removed? I have a reference book here that says so..................I have also read that on the models that did have the nose cannon, they were not successful?

ju55dk 2nd February 2008 23:38

Re: Bf 109E-4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathfinder (Post 59094)
Just a thought, but didn't the E-4 have the nose-cannon removed? I have a reference book here that says so..................I have also read that on the models that did have the nose cannon, they were not successful?

No E's had a nose cannon!!!!! Look at the official Lutfwaffe- document above!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Junker

Pathfinder 3rd February 2008 00:03

Re: Bf 109E-4
 
Thanks, Junkers ;)

newcomer 3rd February 2008 00:21

Re: Bf 109E-4
 
Hi to all!:)

How some specimens of Bf 109 E will be equipped with (sub)variants of engines, armament, canopies... etc. not only depend what proposed by designer than also what available in the moment of production. It is also the same story when wrecked aircraft repaired. That repeated with later variants of Bf 109 even more than previous. So the features pointed out in documents understand only as guidelines but not as absolute truth.

Kind regards

Newcomer

Falcon 4th February 2008 02:39

Re: Bf 109E-4
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurfürst (Post 58669)
Out of curiousity, which version of the DB 601A did the E-4s gets? A-1 or Aa? I believe the E-7s had the Aa as standard.

In the german wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB_601) you can read that the "DB 601 Aa" was the export version of the "DB 601 (A-1?)". That can be logical, because the "Bf 109 E-3a" was also an export version. Are other variants of the DB 601 known, like the A-1 and the Aa?


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