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Csaba B. Stenge 5th April 2008 11:11

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
Have you find any other personal belongings of the pilot?

Brian Bines 5th April 2008 12:42

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
Hi Adolf,

Do any of these locations from the Luftwaffe Loss Returns tie to the crash location of the 109 - East of Noverossijsk, Northwest of Charkow, Charkow-Bogeduchew and Bagajewskaja,

Regards

Brian Bines

Tomislav Haramincic 5th April 2008 13:40

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
Has someone located this village Borodaevskoe in the Kursk/Kharkov region? It would be a great help if someone could pinpoint the location in reference to a bigger place or city. Than the location could be easily correlated with the LW Planquadrat system.
The pilot is probably still MIA.

Adolf Mebius 5th April 2008 14:17

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
Earlier village had other name, the information on it is now specified. The plane has been found on depth of 7 metres, a corner of its falling of 90 degrees. The award of the pilot on restorations, its number it will be soon known. Which I have written number, it is hand arm number, it too on restoration. As soon as I will specify the village or city name near to it, at once I will answer.

Andreas Brekken 5th April 2008 14:57

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
Hi.

Have tried to make a set of search parameters for this, please tell me if I am right/wrong:

Bf 109
Pilot listed as MIA
Timespan 01.09.1943 - 31.10.1943
Luftflotte 4 or Luftflotte 6 area

Remember that for a lot of the MIA pilots there is no given location (just listed as 'Unbekannt' if you do not have the NVM

For the given period there are 19 pilots listed as missing flying a Bf 109 in the Luftflotte 4 area, and only two commanded by Luftflotte 6.


Regards,
Andreas B

Brian Bines 5th April 2008 15:10

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
The other problem is that the German wartime spelling of place names is different to the current spellings on Google-Earth.

Adolf Mebius 5th April 2008 16:31

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
And it is possible to show this this list?

S Sheflin 5th April 2008 18:27

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
Hello all,

The engine Werknummer shown in intriguing. The vast majority of DB 605 A-1 WNrn. I have documented are either five digits, or a three-digit prefix (002, 004, 007, 011, or 019) followed by a four, five or six-digit number. In many cases, the three-digit “prefix” number appears to indicate the manufacturer. Your number, 700/044, is exciting because it doesn’t fit into any known blocks.

I note that the engine ID tag says “MERCEDES-BENZ.” Did you find a three-letter Hersteller code or manufacturer’s name anywhere on the engine?

Steve Sheflin

Tomislav Haramincic 5th April 2008 19:14

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
Hi Steve,

I have also a few DB605 6-digit WNrs. without producer 3-digit prefixes. They are in the 100xxx, 201xxx, 205xxx and 210xxx range.

Adolf Mebius 6th April 2008 12:00

Re: We need help in an identification of the pilot.
 
Here the exact information in a falling place: Ukraine, the Dnepropetrovsk area, village Borodaevsky farm. Werknummer has not been found.
...
What JG drew duty in this zone in October-September, 1943 to what this pilot could belong?


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