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Evgeny Velichko 22nd May 2008 12:25

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 66484)
Evgeny,
I have other book with similar cover style. It's superb "Red Devils over Korean Sky' by Igor Siedow. Are there any other books in this series beside "Air war in Spain" ?

http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3532153/

Igor Seidov's book is not the only and not the superb book of "new generation" in Russia.

MUCH better is:

Quote:

"Stalins falcons against "Flying Fortresses". Chronicle of air battles in Korea 1950-53" // "Сталинские соколы против "Летающих крепостей". Хроника воздушной войны в Корее 1950-1953"

Authors: Tepsukaev Y.G., Krylov L.E. //Авторы : Тепсуркаев Ю.Г., Крылов Л.Е.
2008 г. , 352 Pages.
New generation - I mean books, athors of wich used ARCHIVES (wich were secret in Soviet time).

fran 23rd May 2008 19:51

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Hello,
There is a mistake as in most books:
José Luis Aresti deserted two month earlier on 15-7-38 from 'El Carmolí' flight School to Melilla (spanish African coast) in a early model, combat weary I-16, probably CM-033.
About the other I have:
CM-125 Shotdown 13-9-1938 Fayón (Jaime San Colom KIA) 7ª.Escuadrilla
CM-138 Combat damaged 13-9-1938 landed Reus (pilot.WIA) 3ª.Escuadrilla
CM-154 Shotdown 13-9-1938 Ebro. 7ª.Escuadrilla
CM-178 Shotdown 13-9-1938 Fayón
CM-192 Deserted,disoriented(?) 13-9-1938 Landed in Almenar Enemy field (Andrés Fierro Menú-OK) 3ª.Escuadrilla
Andrés Fierro is still in good health today and says he landed short of fuel. POW by Nationalist, was exchanged and came back to his Escuadrilla where
did not received a very warm welcome, (Republican airfields were extensively bombed because his reports to the other side Inteligence)
Regards
Francisco

Evgeny Velichko 23rd May 2008 20:08

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Francisco - thanks for reply!

Do You interested in SCW?

May be You are in contact with author of this book, S. Abrosov?

If not - I can try to contact him, and forward to You his email adress.

Csaba B. Stenge 24th May 2008 11:54

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evgeny Velichko (Post 66488)
http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/3532153/

Igor Seidov's book is not the only and not the superb book of "new generation" in Russia.

MUCH better is:



New generation - I mean books, athors of wich used ARCHIVES (wich were secret in Soviet time).

Evgeny,

Does the new edition of Skomorokhov's book contain any new info, compared with the earlier edition (which I have)?

Thanks,

Evgeny Velichko 25th May 2008 08:25

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Yes, Csaba, it is a reprint of 1975 edition, with additional after-war photoes included.

Csaba B. Stenge 25th May 2008 08:58

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evgeny Velichko (Post 66639)
Yes, Csaba, it is a reprint of 1975 edition, with additional after-war photoes included.

Thank you.

fran 26th May 2008 08:54

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Hello Evgeny,
Yes I am interested in SCW although 'red' side is not my strong point.
No, I am not in contact with Abrosov. I would like to read his book but otherwise edited in english, I cannot do it.

Regards

fran 26th May 2008 09:01

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Hello,
Are there info from russian side in these books about (pilots involved etc.)
the shot downing of Eberhardt and Enrici on 13 Nov.36?

Regards

Evgeny Velichko 26th May 2008 11:10

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Hi, Francisco!

Answer from Sergey Abrosov was:

"Yes, I would like to contact with every SCW researcher. But bad thing my foreign languages are very weak. I dont know how our communication will go because of it."



Yes, there are combat reports of russian pilots over this combats. There are report of I-16 type5 pilot who shot down Heinrici, Lt. Sergey A. Chernykh.

Pilot, who rammed He-51 of Eberhardt was Kap. Sergey F. Tarkhov, leader of "I-16 squadron". Tarkhov could bail from his aircraft, but was shot in air by REPUBLICAN ground troops (who thought he is a nacionalists pilot), got 6 bullet wounds. After he landed, he was still alive. He was severely beaten by republican, didnt care he is in republican uniform. After this, he was moved to Military Ministerium Building, and there soviet reporter recognised him as Soviet pilot. He was moved to hospital, but it was too late.

Kapitan S.F. Tarkhov died of wounds 23.11.36.

fran 27th May 2008 09:46

Re: "The air war in Spain. Chronicle air battles of 1936 - 1939's." By Abrosov S.V.
 
Thank you Evgeny,
Do appears in Abrosov's book the combat report of Chernykh? I have doubts:
On what based Chernykh his claim when according the Nationalist sources, Henrici managed to made back and land his aircraft just to die shortly after of the wounds?
Followed Chernykh to Henrici to witness the (crash?)landing?

Regards
Fran


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