David your remark about black or white outline on numerals of the II gruppe; do you mean A-8's and A-9's ? As I have not seen photos with this of Doras in 5-7th staffels. 5th staffel A-9's were solid white, no outline during September through December 44.

cheers

Erich ~

Erich,

Yes, I am referring to A-8/9s for II. Gruppe during the last months of the war.

David