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Modeldad 27th May 2008 14:49

Re: Phoos 3-25
 
Fiat Aircraft: Difficult to tell if they are CR 30 or 32. Austria received both. The difference basically being the CR 32 was a slightly scaled down CR 30. Given the shape of the fin on 182, in inclined to say it is a CR 30, but only a guess as the CR 30 and 32 were very similar in appearance.

But I do not believe 182 is a CR 30B (Biposto). What you as the front windscreen I believe is the top of the fin of the aircraft next/behind.

F19Gladiator 27th May 2008 15:56

Re: Phoos 3-25
 
Regarding the Fiat parade:

'182' was one of the three Fiat C.R. 30 biposto two-seater aircraft.
They had numbers '180', '181' and '182'. '181' belonged to Jagdgruppe I./135 Aibling and the other two belonged to Jagdgruppe I./138 Aspern.

The photo is published in an article 'Unternehmen "Otto"' in Fleger Revue extra No.3 and is from the collection of Mr Petrick according to the photo caption.
It is also stated that the photo was taken in Wiener-Neustadt at a parade for Göring.
Br
Goran

John Beaman 27th May 2008 17:24

Re: Photos 3-25
 
Regarding the 109, it is definitely an F as you can see the glass quarter panel through the open canopy. Also, the canopy is definitely an F type.

As to whether it is Marseille, it certainly looks like him, his style of dress: rolled up sleeves, "50 mission" crush cap, sun glasses and all that hardware around the neck. This could be when he returned from receiving the diamonds. He likely ferried a plane back to Afrika. Another clue that it might be a ferry aircraft comes from the overhead pilot armor being in place. As far as we can determine, Marseille never flew one of "his" aircraft with this in place.

As for the SKZ, Rabe Anton and I believe the style of the "K" in the SKZ may be a clue to its maker and an SKZ block and WNr.

You can see where this machine may fit in from reading a recently published book by Rabe Anton and myself on Marseille's aircraft. The publisher's link is here:

http://www.airpowereditions.com/our-...Marseille.html

edwest 28th May 2008 03:17

Re: Phoos 3-25
 
Gentlemen,


I would like to hazard an interpretation of the chalk marks:

ncce/ec or eg



Ed

Tomislav Haramincic 28th May 2008 14:24

Re: Phoos 3-25
 
Hi,

Here's a better view to the chalk writing

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3.../misc/8558.jpg


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