Re: "Yellow 16" of Unit: 9./JG27 Flown in the MTO, 1943 who was the pilot KIA?
 

I was going from the book which put him as "Mortally wounded", however I suppose that it never actually said KIA, I assumed that, so apologies for that inaccuracy, I believe that could have been my misinterpretation

However, as I said before, thank you for your help with identifying the pilot and his eventual repatriation.

Yours, Neil.

Re: "Yellow 16" of Unit: 9./JG27 Flown in the MTO, 1943 who was the pilot KIA?
 

Hello Jochen,

Oh, now I recall our earlier discussion.

As you state, the werknummer 15144 is clearly is clearly that of a G-4. With the discovery of the photos showing the repair in progress, and the loss information, the confusion is sorted out.

For the record I enclose my image – that is virtually identical to that posted above - plus an enlargement of the tail showing the werknummer. I also post the images of its repair by the Americans that you described.

Cheers,

David

Re: "Yellow 16" of Unit: 9./JG27 Flown in the MTO, 1943 who was the pilot KIA?
 

Clearly a G-4, What we could see clearly is that plane has "beule", at least one maybe a Bf109g-4,6..

remi

on the losses we could find in the 151xx range some G-6

Re: "Yellow 16" of Unit: 9./JG27 Flown in the MTO, 1943 who was the pilot KIA?
 

The 15 1xx range was an G-4trop range without any G-6.

Regarding the "yellow 16" I agree with Jochen Prien because according the camouflage the a/c was delivered for sure by Regensburg and not by Erla. So IMHO the 15 144 fin was used during the repair of the G-6.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

Re: "Yellow 16" of Unit: 9./JG27 Flown in the MTO, 1943 who was the pilot KIA?
 

The 15 1xx range was an G-4trop range without any G-6.

Some in the losses are reported as G-6, but one time to time without continuity, any spur of remanufactured G-4 in G-6 ??


Regarding the "yellow 16" I agree with Jochen Prien because according the camouflage the a/c was delivered for sure by Regensburg and not by Erla. So IMHO the 15 144 fin was used during the repair of the G-6.

Nd that G-6 was 16531 ??

remi

Re: "Yellow 16" of Unit: 9./JG27 Flown in the MTO, 1943 who was the pilot KIA?
 

Hello remi,

1. What about mistakes in the reports? Weren't unusual. The factory delivered all a/c's as G-4trop. Regarding an remanufactoring from G-4 to G-6 I exclude it for Erla factory ... and in field units?

2. Here I think Mr. Prien is the expert. I exclude the Erla-W.Nr. for an Mtt.-fuselage.

Best wishes
Rasmussen

Re: "Yellow 16" of Unit: 9./JG27 Flown in the MTO, 1943 who was the pilot KIA?
 

Dear Rémi,

I cannot add anything to what I have said so far - we have no proof but it seems very likely that this " yellow 16 " was in fact the a/c in which Uffz. Gerhard Gorrisch of 9./JG 27 was wounded in the Tunis area on May 6th, 1943, recorded as Bf 109 G-6 trop with WerkNr. 16 531.

Regards

Jochen Prien

Re: "Yellow 16" of Unit: 9./JG27 Flown in the MTO, 1943 who was the pilot KIA?
 

This is NOT Erla aircraft in case it has no compressor fairing common for all G-6 and G-5 produced by Erla whenever the aircraft was fitted with hermetized cockpit.