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obdl3945 6th October 2008 00:06

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
Doug...

Thanks for sharing your information. I appreciate that it's not a complete listing, but it certainly goes a long way to clarifying matter for me. I notice too, that up to and including the 'S7' code, they all seem - my sense of geography permitting - to fall within the pre-war Luftkreis areas, ie S1 (Posen) - Luftkreis 1 = HQ Königsberg, S3 (Dresden) - Luftkreis 3 = HQ Dresden etc. Only the 'S13' and 'S17' codings fall outwith this rule, seemingly.

Dénes...

Thanks, too, for your input. That must've been quite a survivor, that Ju86, if it was still sporting those markings in 1945... :). I believe the double yellow fuselage bands eventually became specific to Blindflugschulen aircraft.

A big thank you to all who posted to this thread. Best wishes...

Paul

Dénes Bernád 6th October 2008 17:54

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
Not quite a pre-war training code, nevertheless interesting:

http://i22.ebayimg.com/06/i/001/10/4a/8b72_1.JPG
[Source: eBay]

The Do 17 in the background sports the Vkz. 80+B14, while the one in the foreground 80+B3K (the first two digits are assumed).

Any plausible explanation for this apparent discrepancy?

Doug Stankey 6th October 2008 18:35

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
Thanks for the obscure image!

The A/c with "B14" code is from 4.(F)/Aufkl.Gr. 18. There is another example of this code (80+F14) on page 71 of Aufklärer und Aufklärungsverbände der deutschen Luftwaffe 1935-1945 by Wadman et al.
On the other hand, the one "B3K" code is a bit tougher since the "K" means that it is from the post strike recon flight of the staff flight of the third gruppe of a bomber unit. Therefore I expect that it does NOT have "80" as the first part of the code.

This is all part of the fun of prewar codes!

Doug

Stig Jarlevik 6th October 2008 19:38

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
Guys

Jet & Prop issue 2/2003 had an article about this.
I take it that neither you Paul or Doug has that article?

If you send me hagel.jarlevik@bredband.net your e-mails I will scan the article for you. Basically it seems to confirm what Doug is saying, but gives a lot more schools depending on the letter after the cross.

Cheers
Stig

obdl3945 6th October 2008 21:42

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
Stig...

Thank you... PM with address on its way to you... :)

Regards

Dénes Bernád 7th October 2008 22:00

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
Here is a photo of a rare Dornier Do J 'Wal' (?) seaplane with a code not listed by Doug, S6+H02, and yellow (?) rear fuselage ring [source: eBay]:

http://www.holzleim95.de/pictures/Ebay/30.09.08/11,1

Mrkvanek 8th October 2008 09:47

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
[citace=Denes Bernád;74453]Here je fotografie vzácný Dornier Do J ' Wal' (?) hydroplán s kódem neuvedeným od Douga, S6+H02, a žlutý (?) zadní trupový prsten [zdroj: eBay]:

http://www.holzleim95.de/pictures/Ebay/30.09.08/11,1[/citace]

Mrkvanek 8th October 2008 09:58

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
I am sorry for mistaken first entrance.
On photo isn't S6+H02, but S6+H82.
Detailed list groups you can find in journal JET +
PROP 2/03

Mrkvanek 8th October 2008 10:04

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
I am sorry for mistaken first entrance.
In the photograph isn't code S6+H02, but S6+H82.
Detailed code list groups you can find in the magazine JET + PROP 2/2003

Dénes Bernád 8th October 2008 21:33

Re: Pre-war training unit codes
 
Well, the seller also mentioned the unit code a such...


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