Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Müritz-see, some 50 km NW Berlin , between Parchim nd Neubrandenburg ... probably Tony

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Remi

Many thanks for looking up this lake.

I will show you this file when you come over next and you can copy it. There are many German losses listed that would not have been reported to QM6 as it was too late in the war.

Regards

Tony

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Hi
Out of curiosity..
Is this the lake discussed say about ten years ago,( on a board I can't remember [maybe about military vehicles?] ).
Where there are some AR-196's still on the bottom of the fresh water lake and couldn't be moved due to risk of contamination of the water ?
The details and location were confirmed to me, but it was many computers ago and I have lost the details.
cheers
Jerry

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Jerry

That was a lake or reservoir near Tallinn, Estonia IIRC.

regards
Dave

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Hi dave,
Thanks for the info,
and proving my memory hasn't totally gone west .....
cheers
Jerry

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Hello!

Interesting news. Haven't seen not a thing about them in the Estonian forum(s) that I read. Makes me doubt the whole thing.

The location would be lake Ülemiste just opposite (West) the Tallinn airport. But I very much doubt there would be any Ar 196s on the bottom. It was AGr 127 with Arado 95 based there. Teilstaffel Reval/BFGr 196 with Ar 196 left Tallinn already late 1942. German ships may have had one or two Ar 196s with them during 1944 but those would not have been based at the lake? IIRC the ships didn't visit Tallin either. Tallinn was occupied by Soviets in September 1944.

Cheers,
Kari

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Gents

Thanks very much for your feedback. Tony, may I ask the file reference for the NA file you mention, "Claims and Losses in April 1945"?

Thanks for the suggestion of the Müritz-see, Remi and Tony, though I'm not sure if it is relevant, as it appears too far away, and therefore to large a scope of error.

41 was operating out of Celle on an armed reconnaissance in the Lübeck-Wismar areas. They damaged some MET near Lake Schwerin and on their way home to Celle again, came across the Arados on Lake Ratzeburg, which is about 135km NW of the Mürtiz-see. Therefore I'm not sure if it's onein the same, but thanks nonetheless for the information, whcih is most appreciated.

Kind regards
Steve

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Hi Kari

I think there was supposed to be three of them, but it is possible they have been mis identified.

Dave

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Steve

Its HW2/98, each page A4 width but about a metre long.

Tony

Re: 16 Ar196s damaged, Ratzeburgersee, 24 April 1945
 

Hi Tony

Thanks for your reply and PM; most appreciated.

Regards
Steve