Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

Hi, guys

Extremely nice photo of what happens when you put a hand grenade in a cockpit. Would be a very nice task for a modeller to replicate...

regards

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

when you put a hand grenade in a cockpit

If it is really what happened, we couldn't say that the G-6 is an up-armoured plane, at least on the left side...

Remi

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

Anders, Rémy,

Here another Bf 109 G with hand grenade damage, and this time, Rémy, on the right side ;-))

Source:
http://deutsch-militaria.forumactif....affe-t1359.htm

Cheers
Marc

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

Second Bf 109: The winterscene rember me at the crash of Uffz.Maxis from JG 53 at 1. January 1945 near Saarlautern.

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

Hello,

Which second picture? The 2nd posted by Marc or the 2nd in this thread posted by Unikum?
Interesting then; I din't know LW flew with a grenade in their pocket, did they?
And no other crash in January 1945, during winter of course, except Maxis one?
Regards,
Franck.

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

Unikum, George, D. B. and hanshauprich,

I fully concurr with D. B: the curved engine bearer of the DB 605 D and the flat left fuselage panel to accomodate it points straight to an Erla-built Bf 109 G-10.

This excludes Uffz Hubert Maxi's Bf 109 G-14/AS, Wnr 784993 "White 13" of 14. /JG 53. After checking the published Luftwaffe loss lists in John Manhro's so excellent "Bodenplatte", I found suprisingly few Bf 109 G-10's and actually only one machine which Wnr (130361) fits with the known production blocks of Erla lost on 1 1 1945. It was "Blue 2" piloted by Fw. Alfred Mannchen of 16. /JG 27. The machine came down near Utrecht, the pilot being KIA. This does not fit with what we see of the picture: a neatly crash-landed machine...

Cheers
Marc

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

Marc,

Wouldn't G-10 WNr. 130361 be one of the relatively rare Messerschmitt-built airframes?

Steve Sheflin

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

You are correct, Steve, although they were not that rare. Also, as such, it was not an Erla-built machine!

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

Marc,

What appears to be a neat landing doesn't always indicate what transpired before getting to point 'B'. Who's to say the pilot didn't survive the crash-landing?

Stephen

Re: New pic of a Bf 109 G-6 (in Ainring?), 1945
 

Steve, John,

Thanks for correcting me! Unfortunately I answered relying on what remains of my memory and thus surmized the wrong producer.

John, is it not a left -hand flat panneled and thus Erla-built machine? That's what I see beyond the smiling GI...

MF144, correct, got your point... Research assumptions against true life accounts which cannot be traced based on this partial shot of the machine...

Cheers
Marc