Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

Hi.

Yes - the GenQu list give the aircraft as a Me 410, not a Bf 110.

Do you have access to the VLM?

Regards,
Andreas B

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

Hi Andreas,

i don't have a copy of the original VLM, but i have two
letters from the WASt, they where checking twice the
VLM and named a Me 110.
Eye withness reported a crash of a Me 110 that day.
Fishermen "fished" some pieces of a Me 110 years after the crash.
Pictures of salvaged parts show definitively Me 110 parts.

As far as i know, the WNr. type doesn't fit well to a Me 410, but i'm not sure.

As you can imagine, in the beginning of my research, i was searching in archives and underwater for two wrecks, until i realised it's the same one.

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

Balke gives 2485 but still a Me410, but this Wn is not a Me410 Wn, STKZ is T.+ZH, V.KG2 suffers other losses of Bf110/E-F in those days

Remi

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

Hi Remi,

thanks a lot for the info. Seems to be a combination of the 2 sources. I was in contact with Mr. Balke before and will ask him for his source for this loss.

@Andreas: Do you have something for WNr. 2485 (Crash/accident before july 43)?

Greetings

Lino

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

2485 is unknown as lost/damaged or own by any unit, that gives confirmation for your 2485 accident

Remi

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

As far as i know, the destroyergroup of KG 2 (V. KG 2) was formed shortly before the accident. (around june 1943)

So the aircraft was build 2 years before, there should be a high possibility for a damage.

Perhaps we should also look for WNr 2425 (For the case at least this part was correctly mentioned in the GQM loss list.)

@Andreas
>>Yes - the GenQu list give the aircraft as a Me 410, not a Bf 110.
What's the WNr. for your loss?

Thanks a lot for help

Lino

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

2425 hs been 100 % lost time before, your case for me is solved the V.KG2 was at that time in formation, with numerous training flights, production of 410 was just beg. , maybe KG2 was the first to use it with KG51, so short of planes used second-hand Bf110, your plane is at 90 % if not more the Bf110E Wn 2485, Balke aprrouved his book is based on NVM GQM + Summ.verl. Meldungen, quite easy to see

a 2 years old plane is quite common for schools/preparation... , the KG26 start the war with He111H-1s in 1939 nd finished it at least for one group with the same model He111H-16s

Remi

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

Hi Remi,

You are right, the WNr. 2485 should be almost safe now.

Perhaps one reason for the "Me 410" entry is the fact, that
V. KG 2 is only known for the use of this aircraft type.
But the Bf 110 was also used for training and preparing the
crew to the new Me 410.

@Remi
mercie beaucoup

Do you have some details for the 2425 loss for me?
Date/Unit

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

Sorry , I misread the post of Evgeny, seems to me that he gave the loss-date,no just the birth-date, so we hv to downgrad my 90 %/your Safe to
50 % /half-safe.

It would be interesting to know why Balke select the 2485 vs 2425

...

Remi

Re: Strange code on Me 110
 

Hi, Lino

The WNr in the GenQu report is 2425, but as stated given as Me 410.

Regards,
Andreas B