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Nach den Krieg zur LH,

What is this LH léo ???


Remi

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Hello,
LH is the abbreviation for Lufthansa, the german airline.
regards
yumimoto

Re: The Curious Case of the NSFK Ace
 

Guys

To try and keep some kind of perspective of this topic, may I remind everyone that NSFK was formed on April 17th,1937 with the name change (or incorporation) of the civil DLV. At least up to the outbreak of war the NSFK was the organization in Germany handling the civilian flying interest, such as all kind of "sports" flying, gliding training and so on. It simply was a new way for the German totalitarian regime at the time to gain control of every aspect of the German Nation. It was a perfect way of indoctrinating youth both into Nazi ideas and at the same time take care of their flying interests.

I believe their main activity during the war was to take care of most (if not all) gliding activities in Germany, thus making an earlier use of young men who wanted to become pilots, but who were not quite at the correct age yet to start military training.

Needless to say the organisation needed teachers, and to me it is not surprising many (most?) were over aged for general service within the regular Luftwaffe.

Every organization always creates it's "oddities", which seems to be the case with our first man. The second case seems to me to be an individual who trained in the NSFK and later went over to the regular Luftwaffe. Nothing odd or strange with that. I doubt the wartime NSFK was crawling with "aces" capable of borrowing battle planes at will. The really interesting part with Strübing is how and where he got the aeroplanes to score his victories with.

Cheers
Stig

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Stig has hit the nail on the head with his comments. As far as I was aware the NSFK was formed to create air-mindedness among German youth with an eye to expanding the Luftwaffe to a wartime footing. Many Luftwaffe pilots gained their first flight experience with the glider training schools of the NSFK.

Aside from gliders, the NSFK also had small aircraft for powered flight training. Therefore a NSFK instructor with access to a combat aircraft, no less an Me 262, is truely astounding, almost incredible! Therefore my hope that someone will take an interest in delving further into Strübing's career. The best chance of that would be to rediscover Strübing's nephew, Detlof Mohr, who is by now in his 80s.

Tom

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Gentlemen,

I thought probably some NSFK instructors had ended up being ground attack pilots flying trainers armed with anti-tank rockets.

Sincerely,

Edward L. Hsiao

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So this unknown gentleman is actually the highest scoring jet ace in all of history?

Bronc

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Hi Guys

I can think of one further none Luftwaffe pilot who claimed to be an ace(eight "kills" by memory, he was even given a honorary rank, but only one was ever confirmed on the micro films, but it's proves there should be evidence upto end 1944. Also a JG 52 offizier without a flying licence claimed four, so strange things are there to be found, but twenty-five claims would leave evidence somewhere, but very intrigueing!

Kind Regards

Johannes

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So this unknown gentleman is actually the highest scoring jet ace in all of history?

I cannot tell if the document is true or fake but we are only asked to believe that claims 24 and 25 were made flying an Me262. The earlier ones could have been other on types.

First question to ask is, were there Me262s at or near to Bergedorf airfield that he supposedly flew from. If there were not then the story stops there. If the nearest 262s were miles away then he would not have time to travel and take off to meet a raid

Martin

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If you (or someone else) can expand on this, I found that interesting.

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This story seems to be a very rough missinterpretation of the document. I assume Strübing was commanding the Hitler youth troops, which supported the Flak unit around Hamburg and one of these batteries from Bergedorf shot down the Lancaster.

The facts:
At Buchen - which should read Büchen (located east of Hamburg) - the only military installations during the war were two Luftwaffe depots for ammunition and petrol. There was no kind of a “Me 262 training unit” or landing ground.

The distance from Büchen to Kaltenkirchen, where I./JG 7 was based, or to Parchim, where III./JG 7 was based, was in both cases 90km. In consequence, when Strübing heard the alert and jumped into his car, he had to drive under the conditions in spring 1945 around three hours before he reached the aircraft. The enemy would have already left the area, when he could take off.

The text of the presented document combined with the fact that Strübing was able to fly an aircraft and may be after the war he told something about the Me 262 created this funny story.