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Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

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Originally Posted by PMoz99 (Post 251726)

Hello Michael.
I would say not, unless some of the pre-production batch of 8 109E-0 went to the Legion Kondor and he was privy to flying one of them. I have no info about them. Osprey's Air Vanguard 018 states the E-1 did not arrive in Spain until the end of March 1939 when 40 arrived, and Ensslen's last SCW kill was 5/2/39.
Attached table of kills for Ensslen in the SCW from Osprey Air Vanguard 018.
Interestingly, in a list of all WW2 kills (up to a point, and I think it is Tony Woods' list) shows 4 kills for Ensslen in 1940 - 2 in May, one in Sep and one in Oct. In the end, I think he was only credited with 3 kills in WW2, but I can't tell you which ones they were.
Peter

26.5.40/0625 Curtiss Hawk, Diedenhofen area
Day's Hawk losses include No. 106 of GC I/4, Lt. Stiquel. Same unit also lost Sgt-Chef Bes and No.109 of Adj. Jean Hotellier POW (the unit is said to have been in action against I/JG 21 so possibly not actually Ensslen's victory)

27.9.40/1345 Spitfire Chatham
Were these claimed against 19 and 41 sqns? Likely too far north....

8.10.40/1247 Spitfire SW of London
66 sqn. Overclaiming, only one loss at this time: N3043/LZ-K of Sgt. Rufus Arthur Ward KIA (also claimed by Gefr. Bernhard Wilsky)

Sources: Battle of Britain then and Now, Tony Wood listings (checked against Mathews and Foreman)

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

Michael, you can have a look for yourself. The whole Osprey book is available on the 'net.

https://issuu.com/arielbarbuio/docs/...18_messerschmi

Cheers
Peter

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

Just a comment, Enßlen is still awaiting a named gravestone, along with two others at Folkestone, plus five more at other sites in England.
The VDK plead poverty, no funding available.

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

Hi guys

Small correction and complement about his claim on the 26/05/40:

His claim was against Curtis of GC II/5 ( NO LOSSES),6h.25 "Diedenhofen", "Thionville" in French.

VERY FAR from the place of losses of GC II/4 ("ARRAS/CAMBRAI/LENS/DOUAI)
The fight took place between I/JG 21 and GC II/4 (Curtis:3 losses) and GC III/1 (Morane:4 losses)....9h05/9h40.

So his claim ("abschuss"?) is totally unfounded.

Regards

michel

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

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Originally Posted by focusfocus (Post 251830)

Michel,
Thanks for removing all doubt. Appreciated.

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

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Originally Posted by PMoz99 (Post 251742)

Michael, you can have a look for yourself. The whole Osprey book is available on the 'net.

https://issuu.com/arielbarbuio/docs/...18_messerschmi

Cheers
Peter

Good morning Peter,

at last the link works well. Thanks.
Scrolling through the pages I don't find any equipment data for 2./JG88 in Aug38-Feb39.
But intriguingly, I learned that Johannes Gentzen had 8 Bf109D kills. Thus, he narrowly misses the joint top ace rank for that subtype.

Cheers,

Michael

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

You'd think Gentzen would be a topic for a different thread, but anyways....

Hannes Gentzen
2.9.39/1800 PZL P.23B "Karas" Gidle village, S of Radomsko (crashed Wygoda, Czestochowa area) 44-185 of 21 EB, Pchor.Obs. Wilczak, Sierz.Pil. Urycaj and Kpr.Stz. Schibich all KIA

3.9.39/1055 PZL P.23B "Karas" 8km NE of Radomsko 55 EB. Crew of Ppor.Obs. Podogrodzki, Plut.Pil. H. Borys (Pilot) was the only survivor, WIA

13.9.39 PZL P-37 Jaroslaw

14.9.39 PZL P-23 S of Brody

14.9.39 PZL P-23 S of Brody 64 EB. This was probably the machine of Pchor. Obs. Stanislaw Kon

14.9.39 PZL P-23 64 EB. At least one other loss: Por. Obs. Eugeniusz Rudowski, crashed at Podgaje near Brody

14.9.39 PZL P-23 64 EB. At least one other loss: Por. Obs. Eugeniusz Rudowski, crashed at Podgaje near Brody

Tentative info:
6.11.39 Curtiss Hawk GC II/5. Sources differ: either Lt. Pierre Houze or No. 57 of SLt. Tremolet damaged and belly-landed back at base as did Sgt Legrand. Possibly also Hurricane of 73 sqn, Sgt. Ayerst only damaged

8.11.39 MS 406 5km NE of Edenkoben Probably overclaiming

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

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Originally Posted by PMoz99 (Post 251742)

Michael, you can have a look for yourself. The whole Osprey book is available on the 'net.

https://issuu.com/arielbarbuio/docs/...18_messerschmi

Cheers
Peter

Hello Peter,

at page 47 there's a Mölders photo. The caption say it shows him in a Bf109E in August 1941. Wasn't he flying a Bf109F in this month ?

Michael

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

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Originally Posted by knusel (Post 252343)

Hello Peter,

at page 47 there's a Mölders photo. The caption say it shows him in a Bf109E in August 1941. Wasn't he flying a Bf109F in this month ?

Michael

Clearly a Typo, because it mentions it is "just over a year before he was killed in a flying accident". Easy enough to spot.

Like spotting that keyboards in Brandenburg, Germany don't seem to have a "ß" key... Strange that.

Re: Hauptmann Wilhelm Enßlen, StabII/JG52, Lost 02.11.40.

Good morning Gentlemen,

can anybody tell me when 2./JG88 received Bf109D's ?

Cheers,

Michael