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Brian Bines 4th January 2012 22:27

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 
Hi Matti,

I guess an NVM outclasses the GQM for spelling of names, does the NVM indicate if these two were ethnic German, or allies serving in the Luftwaffe,

Regards

Brian Bines

Jim P. 5th January 2012 00:32

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 
In general, sorties designated as 'H' - Heimat basically refer to a non-combat flight as someone stated earlier - the literal translation of 'home' isn't applicable. It appears to apply to any training, courier, airfield orientation or other such type of flight where there was no expectation of contact with the enemy. On the other hand any standard patrol, escort or sortie where there existed potential for contact with the enemy might be expected were designated as 'F' - Feindflug. With the Schulen losses such flights where there may be contact with the enemy were designated as a flight type of 'E'. I haven't figured that one out yet. For general Schule flights there so no designation as far as the losses are concerned. It is, or can be, confusing.

Stig Jarlevik 5th January 2012 21:38

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 
Thanks everyone who responded to my statements, and especially Brian who sent me a scan from his vast collection.

Looking at the document he works from, I can readily understand his problems but in this case I have to agree that NVM clerks probably were more careful than GQM with regard to spelling, but on the other hand, what do I know?...

With regard to the Heimat flight I seem to be overruled by experience ( :)) and accept that such flights not necessarily ment homeward bound trips. However since the crew were four pilots, I don't think it was an ordinary routine flight, but it feels better to fit into an resupply flight to bring back more frontline Bf's from some rear area depot.

Thanks again Guys
Cheers
Stig

Jim P. 7th January 2012 00:37

Re: INformation concerning the Loss of Uffz. Johann Bauhuber - 31.12.1941
 
Stig, when I mentioned confusing? If you have any logbooks, note the different flight types - Platzflug, Sperrflug, Alarmstart, Kurierflug, etc. There's lots of them. And when there is a corresponding loss, Heimat or Feindflug as reported by the Gen.Qu. data, and trying to match that to the FB flight type? Some, such as Einsatz or Alarmstart are self-evident, but many of the others, Sheesh. I'm sure that there may be some here that know what all that means, but I'm not one of them.


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