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Peglar 7th December 2010 18:25

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
Here the Answer from berlin. Greetings Peglar

John Manrho 7th December 2010 20:25

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
Der Fall Krawczyk habe ich in 1997 geklärt und wurde von der WAST 1998 beurkundet, er liegt in Lommel.

Gruss,

John

xraymmx 8th December 2010 13:00

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
Interesting posts.

I myself are investigating one of the last claims of Kosse:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=19167

I believed that Kosse came down near Maarhezen, but it looks like I was wrong.

Adriano Baumgartner 8th December 2010 14:47

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
Xraymmx,

What seems strange about the loss of the Typhoon you are researching, on the previous thread, is that one article says it was shot down by a Bf 109, not a Fw 190..." From Hugh Halliday's "Typhoon and Tempest: the Canadian Story", page 93, quoting the 440 Squadron diary:

"They (Cumming in MN665 and F/O W.T. Dunkeld in PD462) were last seen at E5010 just after setting course with a third aircraft flying line astern of them. An RT warning to break was heard and they are believed to have been shot down. This was later confirmed by Intelligence and it was also stated that a Spitfire shot down the Me109 right after this."

Well...I will try to help on the weekend...checking what I do have back home...
Yours
Adriano

PS: Definetely a good search...

John Manrho 8th December 2010 20:56

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
The key to the answer is in this post already gentlemen......have fun.....I like a good puzzle and I hope you do....

J

xraymmx 9th December 2010 20:40

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriano Baumgartner (Post 118609)
Xraymmx,


Well...I will try to help on the weekend...checking what I do have back home...
Yours
Adriano

PS: Definetely a good search...

Thanks,

This sets another light on the subject.

Ray

Alain57 10th December 2010 08:31

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
Hello gents ,
I have these losses over Belgium :
24/12/1944
Liège south east
Fw-190 A-8
P-47-100%
WNr-734392
12./JG 11 Blau 15+l
Ofw Holland Albert (KIA) 22/02/1920 Barbecke
Buried Franken Stadt Sionzig

24/12/1944
Fw-190 A-8
P-47 56FG-100%
WNr-171506
2./JG 26
Schwarze 3+
Ogfr Schmidt Erhard (MIA)

24/12/1944
Liège area
Fw-190 A-8
WNr-739347
13./JG 54
Weise 14+
Fw Schelnast Otto-Franz ( KIA ) 12/08/1921 Wien
Buried Wachtberg-Derkum


24/12/1944
Eupen area
Fw-190 A-8
100%
WNr-737372
3./JG 6
Gelbe 5+
Lt Starzacher Kurt (KIA) 13/12/1923
Buried Lommel Belgium


24/12/1944
Liège area
Fw-190 A-9
100%
WNr-960220
4./JG 6 Blau 10+(of15+)
Oblt Lyons Friedrich ( KIA ) 21/02/1922 Bandoeng Java
Buried Köln-Sud Friedhof 62C grave 78

24/12/1944
Alleur
Fw-190 A-9
P-47 100%
WNr-960218
4./JG 6 Blau 8+
Ofw Schmidt Heinz ( KIA ) 15/06/1918 Rüstingen 50/159
Buried Lommel Belgium


24/12/1944
Eupen (env)
Fw-190 A-8
100%
WNr-737925
4./JG 6 Blau 2+
Fw Lenz Ferdinand (KIA) 08/02/1919 Speisendorf
Buried Köln-Sudfriedhof 62F/E96

24/12/1944
Eupen /Malmedy area
Fw-190 A-8
100%
WNr-737973
8./JG 6 Blau 11+
Uffz Götz Alois (MIA)



24/12/1944
Eupen area
Fw-190 A-8
100%
WNr-350255
8./JG 6
Lt Bahrdt Viktor

24/12/1944
St-Vith (env)
Fw-190 A-8
Jacht 100%
WNr-733986
1./JG 1 Weise 4
Fhr Grundmeier Wilhelm (MIA) 12/10/1924 Alt Seggebruch


24/12/1944
Liége south east
Fw-190 A-8
P-38-100%
WNr-960530
15./JG 54
Gelbe 12+
Gefr Döring Heinz (MIA)

24/12/1944
Olne "Egypte"
Fw-190 A-8/R2
WNr-682313
15./JG 3 Gelbe 7+
Gütersloh
Ogfr Hirschfelder Hubert (POW)





24/12/1944
Liège area
Fw-190 A-8/R2
WNr-682305
15./JG 3 Gelbe 19+
Gütersloh
Fhj Fw Hopfensitz Wilhelm (POW)

24/12/1944
Liège 9 km south east
Fw-190 A-8/R2
WNr-682191
15./JG 3 Gelbe 12+
Gütersloh
Uffz Klose Kurt (POW)

24/12/1944
Tongres area
Fw-190 A-8/R2
WNr-682739
14./JG 3 Schwarze 3+
Störmede
Fw Sommer Josef (POW)

24/12/1944
Tongres – Liége area
Fw-190 A-9
Typhoon -100%
WNr-205265
13./JG 3 Weise 6+
Hptm Kosse Wolfgang (MIA) 27/09/1919 Berlin









24/12/1944
Vervier (env)
Me Bf-109 G-10
P-51 Bailed out -100%-12H00
WNr-490159
4./JG 3 Grune 14+
Uffz Möllerke Kurt (POW) 1924


24/12/1944
St-Vith east
Me Bf-109 G-14
WNr-462658
2./JG 27
Obfhr Klick Max-Heinz ( POW )


24/12/1944
Malmedy east
Fw-190 D-9
P-47 36FG-100%
WNr-210146
5./JG 26 Weise 1+
Uffz Walter Hans-Georg ( KIA )

24/12/1944
Eupen area
Fw-190 D-9
WNr-210912
1./JG 26 Weise 9+
Uffz Kabowski Erwin ( POW )






24/12/1944
Liège area
Fw-190 D-9
WNr-600164
1./JG 26 Weise 10+
Lt Krieger Hans-Hermann ( WND+POW )

24/12/1944
Eupen area
Fw-190 D-9
WNr-210188
6./JG 26 Schwarze 5+
Lt Benz Siegfried (KIA) 17/01/1924 Nagold
Buried at Düsseldorf 112/P/135


24/12/1944
Liège / Bastogne
Fw-190 D-9
Tempest 274 Sqdn - P-47
WNr-210114
6./JG 26
Schwarze 11+
Lt Paul Arthur ( MIA )

24/12/1944
Huy south east
Fw-190 D-9
P-38 367FG-100%- 11H30
WNr-600174
1./JG 26 Blanc 13+
Uffz Jesinger Wilhelm ( MIA )






24/12/1944
Liège area
Fw-190 A-8/R2
WNr-682776
15./JG 3 Gelbe 6+
Gütersloh
Uffz Kapteina Karl ( POW-WIA )

xraymmx 30th July 2011 09:16

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
On the road from Maarheeze to Soerendonk about 300 mtr. from the church they found a luftwaffe pilot in full gear. This turned out to be Lt. G.Rieckhoff. (Fw109A-9 980540* 1./JG 6) who was killed 24-12-1944. Could this be a match?
There is also recorded another Fw109 from 1./JG 26 on the same date between Eindhoven and Maarheeze. No further details.

Could this be a piece for the puzzle or only cause more confuzion?

Ray

John Manrho 30th July 2011 09:37

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
Yep, that is the answer of my little puzzle....the other Fw 190 of 1./JG 26 does not exist. Only one crash neer Maarheze and that was Rieckhoff.

John

xraymmx 30th July 2011 10:11

Re: Missing Lufwaffe Pilots
 
And the typhoon of Dunkeld.


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