Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum

Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/index.php)
-   Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/forumdisplay.php?f=8)
-   -   4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland (http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=23818)

Marius 25th January 2011 14:02

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Gentlemen,
according to original documents Oblt. Galland was Staka of the 4.Staffel. He came to the II.(Sch)/LG 2 on 1.7.1939 and left this unit going directly to II./JG 52 at Böblingen.
Regards,

Larry Hickey 25th January 2011 16:43

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Many/Marius,

It is my belief that the information on Galland as the StaKap of 5.(S)/LG2 when he first joined the unit on 1.7.39 is not correct, but I guess that it's possible that he was on the Gruppenstab immediately after he joined II.(S)/LG2. What was the date that Hptm. Weiss moved up from 4 StaKap to command the Gruppe? Does anyone have that info handy? When he vacated that position must be the key of when Galland replaced him.

Regards,

Many Souffan 25th January 2011 18:14

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Hptm Otto Weiss became Gruppenkommandeure the 1st dec 1939.

Larry Hickey 25th January 2011 20:06

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Many,

Where was Otto Weiss before 1.12.39? Galland was flying L2+AM on 9.8.39 and subsequently almost every day, so he had to be the StaKap at least by that date. I thought that Weiss was StaKap of 4 Staffel before Galland. There's an unexplained gap here.

Regards,

Many Souffan 25th January 2011 23:14

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Hello Larry.

At the beginning of his career Otto Weiss was Technical Officer, in a recce gruppe, after he was in the stab of JG 134, He spent a little time in another unit, I don't remember which one, and begun his career in II (s) LG 2 with the creation of the unit in October 1938, in the stab of the unit.

I really don't know if he was one time the staka of 4.(S)/LG2

Many Souffan 25th January 2011 23:44

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Hello Larry.

I am curious. And I looked for in the vol 1 of the frantastic books of Mr Prien and Friends, and Page 222, I read

that Oblt Adolf galland was staka of 1./JG 52 from 01.11.38 to 31.07.39 to became at this date Staka of 5.(S)/LG2.

very interesting.

Larry Hickey 26th January 2011 00:24

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Many,

Thank's for noticing that. Now I'll have to check that out. I consider Prien's volumes very authoritative, but not without mistakes. Will ask him about that directly.

Regards,

Don Pearson 26th January 2011 00:25

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Many Souffan (Post 121652)
Oblt Adolf galland was staka of 1./JG 52 from 01.11.38 to 31.07.39 to became at this date Staka of 5.(S)/LG2.

very interesting.

This is confirmed in Barbas' volume on I./JG 52.

Don

Many Souffan 26th January 2011 00:58

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
Ok Larry.

I wait for these infos. I am very interested.

By advance thank you.

Marius 26th January 2011 10:19

Re: 4.(S)/LG2 Insignia: background color, origins & relation to personal insignia of Adolf Galland
 
HTML Code:

I thought that Weiss was StaKap of 4 Staffel before Galland. There's an unexplained gap here.
Weiss was Staka of the 5.Staffel and he took the command over the II.Gruppe on 9.9.1939 after Maj.Spielvogel was shot down over Warsaw.


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:39.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net