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Peter Kassak 8th August 2011 19:50

Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.
 
Loos states in his Flugbuch 4 claims of russian fighters. 2x 24.4.1945, 1x 25.4.1945 and 1x 30.4.1945. All in Ta 152 "4"

Pilot 8th August 2011 20:54

Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.
 
Any info from Soviet sources?

FalkeEins 9th August 2011 15:22

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Originally Posted by Peter Kassak (Post 132480)
Loos states in his Flugbuch 4 claims of russian fighters. 2x 24.4.1945, 1x 25.4.1945 and 1x 30.4.1945. All in Ta 152 "4"

..his 'Flugbuch' ? ..or the 'doctored', re-constituted, patched-up photocopied version floating around ? probably not to be relied upon....

Loos also 'witnessed' a number of Dahl's victories in late 1944-early 1945 ..a good month or two after he left JG 300

Peter Kassak 9th August 2011 15:25

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Neil, I did not have it in hands, but the last page I have is a color photo of what seems original paper. I have it from source, who personally knew Loos, and received his LW uniform as well.
So no photocopy definitelly. Dunno if Loos faked his Flugbuch postwar...cannot judge that.

FalkeEins 9th August 2011 15:51

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Hi Peter,

no I doubt Loos bothered 'faking' his Flugbuch post-war..

but someone - probably not Loos himself - has 'created' a version of the Loos Flugbuch from photo copies and then taped the photos together to create a contiguous document, although it looks as though a new page has been pasted over the top of an old one which covers this late-war period. Could be completely innocent for all I know...

Is your image the 'good' copy showing Page 52 all flights from 861 to 876..?

Peter Kassak 9th August 2011 19:35

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Hi Neil,

Yes, this is what I have. I have been told it comes directly form the Flugbuch...I have three separate photos, and I stitched it together...

what do you think?

regards

Peter

FalkeEins 9th August 2011 19:43

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thanks Peter - this certainly looks like a 'good' copy as far as I can tell ...and interesting in that it appears to come from the actual Flugbuch - the cover is just visible (?) ... all I've ever seen are page copies...

I guess 'statements' to the contrary have to go down as no more than 'hearsay' in the face of 'documentary' evidence

Peter Kassak 9th August 2011 20:07

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Neil, I am glad I could help.
I also saw the cover of FB, and had it from man, who was trustful. So I never doubt.
I hope that there is no such a fake FB in such a masterpiece status, including ink stamps on 1944/45 paper kind :)
so does this mean that Loos had possibly really 4 Russian planes claimed in Ta 152?

FalkeEins 10th August 2011 13:21

Re: Successful Fw 190D9 and Ta 152 pilots.
 
..as a sceptic I'd say all Ta 152 claims were 'unsubstantiated'. Evidence for or against is largely based on personal reminiscence.

Erich 10th August 2011 19:25

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think that we may have to question any claims of pilot's with over 3-4 victories flying these late war machines. some speculation with O. Romm with his 6 plus kills against the Soviets in 1945 with the Dora 9, though a nice write up some years ago in A. Prices compilation on the Fw 190 series.


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