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Evgeny Velichko 5th September 2011 18:05

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
Gents, is this loss report is correct?

Quote:

Ju 87D-3, 110486, 8./St.G. 3, MIA with crew on 6.11.43 due to Flak. Pl.Qu 01 582

Matti Salonen 5th September 2011 20:47

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
I think, that it is not correct. Quite possible, that this is it, whose location in NVM is also Pl.Qu 01582:
1943-11-06, 9./Schl.G 77, Ju 87D-3, 110872, S2+KT, 3 km nördlich Maljutjanka. Notlandung infolge Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
F Lt Saul, Werner, vermißt
Bf Uffz Richter, Dieter, vermißt
Also:
1943-09-06, 8./St.G 3, Ju 87D-3, 110486, Fl.Pl. Smolensk-Nord, Bruchlandung. Bruch 40 %.
Maybe this was still under repair in November?

Matti

Andreas Brekken 6th September 2011 10:47

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
Hi.

Here is that last record as it is in the GenQu list - I just checked it for any typos in the database:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=104861

Regards,
Andreas B

Evgeny Velichko 6th September 2011 13:32

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
Ok, gentlmen, thank You very much.

And last question - were there any Fw190 losses? Aksing about II./JG54 and II./SG2 mainly...

Matti Salonen 6th September 2011 14:57

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
None in my database.

Matti

Andreas Brekken 6th September 2011 20:28

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
I cannot find any either.

Regards,
Andreas B

yogybär 7th September 2011 10:58

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evgeny Velichko (Post 133909)
were there any Fw190 losses?

Why do you ask? Did Rudorffer claim LaGG-5's ? :D

Andreas Brekken 7th September 2011 11:52

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
Hi.

Was there sucha a thing as a LaGG-5? I thought the designation was La-5, a development of the older LaGG-3 design?

Regards,
Andreas B

jeanba 7th September 2011 15:36

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken (Post 133970)
Hi.

Was there sucha a thing as a LaGG-5? I thought the designation was La-5, a development of the older LaGG-3 design?

Regards,
Andreas B

LaGG-5 is a mistake that is often found in german records.

Maxim1 7th September 2011 16:50

Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanba (Post 133978)
LaGG-5 is a mistake that is often found as a claim in german records.

As well as LaGG-7, LaGG, Il-5, Il-7, MiG-1 and many others.


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