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Matti Salonen 22nd November 2012 16:56

Re: German ATA?
 
1944-08-18, 3./Fl.ÜG 1 Süd, Bf 109G-14, 780698, Fl.Pl. Darmstadt-Griesheim, Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit mit Bf 109G-6, Werk.-Nr. 780807.Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Sawkin, Ilja, + (Ehrenfriedhof Darmstadt, Grab R 8 C 168)
1944-08-18, 3./Fl.ÜG 1 Süd, Bf 109G-14, 780807, Fl.Pl. Darmstadt-Griesheim, Zusammenstoß in der Luft mit mit Bf 109G-6, Werk.-Nr. 780698.Bruch 100 %.
Flugzeugführer Lt Jakowlew, Alexander, + (Ehrenfriedhof Darmstadt, Grab R 8 C 167)

Matti

Brian 22nd November 2012 17:13

Re: German ATA?
 
Excellent, Matti

Do we know where/how/where Lts Sawkin and Jakowlew were captured?

And more names, please! I believe Andreas knows of some.

Cheers
Brian

Laurent Rizzotti 22nd November 2012 18:06

Re: German ATA?
 
Rather than Soviet POWs used to ferry aircraft, they were probably former-POW that "enlisted" more or less voluntary in "Vlassov-like" formations rather than starve in POW camps.

As for the collision reported by Matti, here is the story of Ilja Savkin:


On 21 January 1943 Starshina Ilya Filippovich Savkin stole the I-16 "31" of 691 NBAP and flew to Finland, belly-landing 7 km northeats of Saarimäki, Aunus. He was handed over to the Germans on 1 May 1943 and served later with the ROA air force (the Russian air force created to support the so-called "Vlassov" army). He died on 18 August 1944%

Laurent Rizzotti 22nd November 2012 18:08

Re: German ATA?
 
Rather than Soviet POWs used to ferry aircraft, they were probably former-POW that "enlisted" more or less voluntary in "Vlassov-like" formations rather than starve in POW camps.

As for the collision reported by Matti, here is the story of Ilja Savkin:

On 21 January 1943 Starshina Ilya Filippovich Savkin stole the I-16 "31" of 691 NBAP and flew to Finland, belly-landing 7 km northeats of Saarimäki, Aunus. He was handed over to the Germans on 1 May 1943 and served later with the ROA air force (the Russian air force created to support the so-called "Vlassov" army). He died on 18 August 1944 in the collision reported above by Matti.

Source: http://kv-bear.livejournal.com/1966.html

Khorat 22nd November 2012 18:32

Re: German ATA?
 
the 109´s of Savkin and Jakolew crashing 1 and 2 km south of Hamm/Rheinhessen, after both aircraft loosing a wing in the midair collision.
Takeoff was airfield Darmstadt-Griesheim.

khorat

RolandF 22nd November 2012 19:23

Re: German ATA?
 
782159 Bf 109G-14 3.(Süd)/FlüG 1 Lt Alexej Tschassownikow+ 03.09.44 Absturz 100% b Überführungsflug b Arber
332519 VH+ZT Bf 109K-4 3.(Süd)/FlüG 1 Lt Oleg Gorbatschew+ 06.01.45 Absturz 100%

Regards

Roland

RT 14th November 2013 13:16

Re: German ATA?
 
Do we know where/how/where Lts Sawkin and Jakowlew were captured?


These ones no!, but a russian freely landed at the Anapa FP in May 43

As an example, ignore his name...


Rémi


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