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Johannes 16th January 2012 06:02

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
Hallo Marc-Andre

Sorry, but I know next to nothing about aircraft marking. However I did check the name I thought could be Baisch, and am 99.9% certain it is not, I would say the name is "Leusch"....that's reading through the scrawl.

Kind Regards

Johannes

Andreas Brekken 16th January 2012 13:01

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
Hi.

I guess this unit existed in various guises namewise over time.

In February 1944 I have references to Einsatzstaffel Erla, unfortunately no references to tactical codes for these incidents.

Regards,
Andreas B

kaki3152 16th January 2012 16:19

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
Wasn't Hans Fay a member of this unit when he shot down Spitfire IX,EN 131, 315 RAF Sq,
on May 4,1943? F/L Lipinsky was KIA.

Rasmussen 16th January 2012 16:49

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kaki3152 (Post 140768)
Wasn't Hans Fay a member of this unit when he shot down Spitfire IX,EN 131, 315 RAF Sq,
on May 4,1943? F/L Lipinsky was KIA.

No ... he was an member of "Alarmstaffel Erla" but in Antwerpen not in Leipzig.

Best regards
Rasmussen

Marc-André Haldimann 16th January 2012 17:59

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
Johannes,

Thanks for your time anyway!

Andreas, Kaki3152, thanks for your references, and Jörg, four your precisions. How many planes did theses "Alarmstaffeln" or "Einsatzstaffeln" have?

Were the Werkspiloten their usual pilots?
Are there any pictures of the Alarmstaffel Erla machines known?

As a side note, I just posted two pictures taken in the Spring of 1944 at Erla VII and at Antwerp- Deurne airfield, depicting Erla built or retrofitted Bf 109 G-6's; one of the is in the W.Nr. 410 xxx range as can be discerned on the photograph:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Thanks in advance
Marc

Johannes 17th January 2012 05:51

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
Hi

personnaly I don't know too much about units, but there was a Industrie Staffel.focke.wulfe.....I think possible erla and Focke.Wulfe were a maximum of a Staffel, JGr.25 possibly a Gruppe.

Regards

Johannes

ouidjat 17th January 2012 06:51

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/berla.html

Jim P. 17th January 2012 23:51

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
No idea unfortunately. BTW, I saw the Stab/JG 26 machine coded 'VH' (Viktor Hilgendorf) many years ago on a neat piece of motion picture film and haven't seen it anywhere since. Does anyone else recall seeing this and know where it might be found? Back then the technology for doing screen captures from film or VHS tape didn't exist, or having access to that type of software was very expensive. It would be a piece of cake now, and I'd love to capture some stills.

ouidjat 24th January 2012 13:20

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
Hi Marc, Hi All,

Got the answer to your first question:
The photo - and it's caption! - comes from Jet&Prop, Foto-Archiv Band 13, Page 30.
I give you the entire caption:
" 44) Diese Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-5 gehörte zur Erla-Werkschutzstaffel. Die "Schwarze J" wurde von Feldwebel Otfried Baisch geflogen. Er fiel am 18.Juli 1944 bei der IV./JG 3.
Sammlung Lärcher".

Hope it helps.

Tschüss, Franck.

ouidjat 20th February 2015 05:20

Re: Erla Luftschutz Staffel
 
Hi gents,

Found that photo this morning.
I thought it was the opportunity to re-open this thread.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/WW5-Me-Bf109-...item2edda4d58f

Is somebody able to read photo's backside?

Regards, Franck.


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