Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

They are reported as S.82, the Wn seems to confirm it , oder..., very "comic " that the Wn are so close , are the codes of the plane given ??

Rémi

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

Rémi, if I had it, I'd report it here, don't you think? ;)

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

For sure, the doc , report it namely as a S.81 ,,??

Rémi

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

FWIW, yes.

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

Hi,
regarding the 31 January 1944 losses, I have in my notes:-

Lt. R.W.Dunkin (317 F.S.) - S.82
Lt. C.J.Hoffman (317 F.S.) - S.82
Lt.R.V.Been (318 F.S.) -S.82 + Me.109

These seem to match the 2 lost S.82's (with maybe a double claim on 1 of them) also Stab/JG.77 lost a Me.109 flown by a Ltn.Klinker, all in the Udine area.

cheers

Bruce Lander

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

This is amazing. Thanks for all your replies. I had thought this might be massive o.verclaiming on the part of the 325th FG but it appears they probably brought down around half of the claims, which is better than the 1:3 ratio that normally occurs.

Thanks again

Keith

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

So the S.81 for the 30.th is still missing ...

Rémi

Nothing about the timing ??

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

Interestingly Ltn Helmuth Klinker Stab./JG77 claimed his second victory on 31/01/44, before being shot down... he must have survived because he scores further victories with JG77.

regards

Keith

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

keith A
Lt. Klinker of 3./JG 77 was KIA on 44-09-28 near Bergen-Heijen (Holland)

Frans A

Re: Luftwaffe losses on 30 Jan 1944 Italy
 

Turning to another aspect (and trying to shed further light to the "mystery" s.81 shot down on 30 January), I think that it could be interesting also to examine the claims of the 325th FG.

According to the great work of Frank J. Olynyk, among the claims of Ju 52s shot down, there is one by F.O. Edsel Paulk (who already claimed one Ju at 11.45 hrs on Villaorba a/f), claiming a second Ju 52 5 miles NE of Villaorba...at 16.15 hrs...!

Considering that the timimg could simply have been transcribed wrong, there is a (tiny) possibility that this could be the S.81 shot down, considering that it was a fixed undercarriage aircraft like the Ju 52, thus easily mistaken for it, with its dark green camo and German markings...

Only a guess, of course...