Re: Ofw. Maisch, NJG 100
 

Just wanted to resurrect this old thread for the second time because I am trying to answer some of the same questions.

I am interested in the Ofw Haisch (or Maisch) that served with 4./NJG 3 in 1942-1943.

This man is reported twice in Mr Balss Nachjagd book:
_ an Ofw Karl Maisch of 4./NJG 3 survived a Do 217 crash on 3 September 1942
_ an Ofw Karl Haisch of 4./NJG 3 was killed in a crash on 20 March 1943.

But the website "Airwar over Denmark" describes the first crash and listed the pilot of Ofw Karl Haisch.

By listing the claims of 4./NJG 3, we find ten claims of Ofw Haisch/Maisch:
_ one on 3-7 July 1942
_ two on 21-22 September 1942
_ two on 17-18 January 1943
_ two on 3-4 March 1943
_ one on 9-10 March 1943

_ two on 21-22 September 1943

But the claims on 21-22 September 1942 and 21-22 September 1943 are exactly the same: same types, locations and types, even if they come from two different Luftwaffe files. So my guess is that they are probably duplicates, and should be in 1942: there was no raid on this night in 1943, only 26 minelaying sorties, and no losses.

This is how the claims are listed in Tony Wood files (same in Jim Perry ones or in the book about Nachjagd claims):


Reichsverteidigung: R.A.F. Bomber Command: Mine-laying
21.09.42 Ofw. Karl Maisch 4./NJG 3 Wellington £ 8683 F1-4: 1.400 m. 23.28 Film C. 2035/II Anerk: Nr.Film
22.09.42 Ofw. Karl Maisch 4./NJG 3 Wellington £ 7689F9: 2.300 m. 00.18 Film C. 2035/II Anerk: Nr. –
22.09.42 Maj. Günther Radusch Stab II./NJG 3 Wellington £ 8511B5: 1.800 m. 01.01 Film C. 2035/II Anerk: Nr. -


Reichsverteidigung: R.A.F. Bomber Command:
21.09.43 Ofw. Karl Maisch 4./NJG 3 Wellington £ 8683 fo. 1-4: 1.400 m. 23.38 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.14
22.09.43 Major Günther Radusch Stab II./NJG 3 Wellington £ 8511 B5: 1.800 m. 01.01 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.13
22.09.43 Ofw. Karl Maisch 4./NJG 3 Wellington £ 7689 h 9: 2.300 m. 00.18 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.15

So my guess is that the claims on 21-22 September 1943 should be deleted and the Ofw Haisch/Maisch that scored 8 kills with 4./NJG 3 between July 1942 and March 1943 was Ofw Karl Haisch, who died on 20 March 1943.

But I would like any comment or correction of the above is somebody else had studied this case.

Best regards

Laurent

Re: Ofw. Maisch, NJG 100
 

Laurent

Foreman/Matthews/Parry makes the same mistake in their Luftwaffe Night Fighter combat claims 1939-1945, while Theo Boiten does not in his Nachtjagd War Diaries.

You can safely delete the three claims on 21-22.9.1943 since there were none made by Luftwaffe.

Both publications however consistantly used the name Karl Haisch

Cheers
Stig

Re: Ofw. Maisch, NJG 100
 

Hi Michal

Yes, there are two guys both fighter pilots with very similar names. The claims for Karl Maisch are:-(the first two as a Feldwebel with 11./Njg5, the other fourteen as an Oberfeldwebel with 2./Njg100)

11th June 1943 Whitley 0114hrs 3000 metres Nr.1
20th July 1943 DB-3 2156hrs 3000 metres Nr.2
18th September 1943 DB-3 2147hrs 2500 metres Nr.3
4th October 1943 R-5 North of Neu-Augustinowka 0012hrs 1000 metres Nr.4
7th May 1944 Wellington 0030hrs Nr.5
12th June 1944 Wellington 0241hrs Nr.6
10th August 1944 Lancaster North-West of Lom 0020hrs 20 metres Nr.7
14th September 1944 2 x Ps-84 both at 2139hrs 800 metres Nr.8-9
7th October 1944 DB-3 1922hrs 4400 metres Nr.10
7th October 1944 DB-3 1945hrs 3000 metres Nr.11
7th october 1944 DB-3 2016hrs 2400 metres A.S.M Nr.12
7th October 1944 DB-3 2040hrs 2300 metres Nr.13
15th October 1944 Ps-84 North-East of Tarnow 1937hrs 2600 metres Nr.14
16th October 1944 B-24 30th North-East of Tarnow 2034hrs 3100 metres Nr.15
16th October 1944 B-24 30km North-West of Tarnow 2046hrs 3400 metres Nr.16
23rd October 1944 Ps-84 East of Poprad 2037hrs 3000 metres Nr.17
23rd October 1944 Ps-84 East of Poprad 2107hrs 2600 metres Nr.18

During the night of 2nd/3rd September 1942 he force-landed hid DO217 at Vislev, Denmark after being wounded. Tarnow is in Poland, and Poprad in Slovakia.
Sorry, but I do not know his fate, he may have made later claims outside of the Micro Films covered time slot, or may have come to grief sometime after 23rd October 1944, also I have no date of Birth!

Kind Regards

Johannes

Re: Ofw. Maisch, NJG 100
 

Johannes, it was Ofw Haisch of NJG3 who crash landed at Vilslev on the 03.09.42 not Maisch. See the entry on our website, source of details WASt.

Kind regards,

Melvin

03.09.1942 4./NJG3 Dornier Do 217J Wnr.1328 Ofw Haisch
Location: Vilslev, Fanö, Denmark

www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com

Re: Ofw. Maisch, NJG 100
 

Just for the record. Vilslev is not located at Fanö.

Junker