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Jaap Woortman 21st November 2012 20:25

Re: one Bf 110 (!) on eBay
 
Marcel refers to constructions like in the attachment.

Jaap

ouidjat 22nd November 2012 03:03

Re: one Bf 110 (!) on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel Hogenhuis (Post 158072)
I believe to remember that this Bf110 had the chevron marking of the Ia of the II./NJG 2 which at that time was Oblt. Sigmund.

Hello Marcel,

The Kracker data base lists Two Rudolf Sigmund both in Stab II./NJG 2 (see explanation in that base)
One (Oblt) with 2 scores gained in June 1942, the other (Maj.) with 26 scores the first one being registered in January, 4, 1943. Picture displays 8.

Regards, Franck.

Marcel Hogenhuis 22nd November 2012 11:21

Re: one Bf 110 (!) on eBay
 
Hello

Rudolf Sigmund died as Hauptmann and Gruppenkommandeur III./NJG 3 in the night of 2/3 October 1943. I guess that 'Major' Sigmund is an error or not the same person.

All the best, Marcel

Pete63 30th November 2012 16:30

Re: one Bf 110 (!) on eBay
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 158051)
And possibly of the same machine, but by the same seller, nonetheless:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Nachtjagd-Flu...item5898756095

Adam,
I quite agree - it looks like the same aircraft. There is a (towing?) chain lying on the ground near the aircraft in (exactly?) the same position - as can be seen in both pictures... And the shadows of the aircraft match too...
Judging by the shadow of the sun, the picture must have been taken when the sun was at it's highest position of the day - and in Summer too..! (Shadows are usually longer in The Netherlands...)

The shape of the camouflage net seems to correspond with the shape of the hangar. In the photograph you were referring to, there is a camouflage construction which looks like it's attached to the corner of the hangar - which could be the same camouflage net..(?)
The hangar is a rather large hangar, by the way... If the photographs of the aircraft are from a series, then we are probably looking at "Werft I"... (As the text at the back of the eBay-photograph indicates. Whether this text is original and correct... Who shall say..?)

Just my two cents, for what it's worth...

Whether it's at Leeuwarden, I'm not (yet) completely sure. When looking at aerial photographs - there could be a position at leeuwarden that matches, but I still have to check some more photographs...

With kind regards,

Piet Bouma
The Netherlands

Pete63 30th November 2012 16:48

Re: one Bf 110 (!) on eBay
 
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Hi guys!

The attachment to this post: I show you a photograph that is supposedly taken at Leeuwarden too - and in it we see the same rounded shape of a camouflage net just outside a large hangar.
(This on also starts at the corner of the hangar)...

Photograph is copyright of the Bundesarchiv. (The Bundesarchiv photo caption says it was taken in France, but Dutch researchers can confirm it was taken at Fliegerhorst Leeuwarden...)

With kind regards,

Piet Bouma
The Netherlands

steve sheridan 30th November 2012 23:11

Re: one Bf 110 (!) on eBay
 
Does anybody have a loss for Bf110E-1 W.Nr3420 ?

Rgs,
Steve.


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