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Andyf 25th November 2005 20:04

Norway!
 
Maybe someone from Kirkenes or Norway could help me?
Cheers
Andrzej

edNorth 25th November 2005 20:48

Re: hints
 
Hi again;

Which other forum? Does this mean that ANOTHER ´Aenderugstufe´ plate has been found in an Ju 188 D wreck somewhere else? The other (general) information I know.

Cheers
ed

Andyf 25th November 2005 22:14

Re: crashed Ju188 D2 in Poland - help
 
Hi Ed!

I am talking about LBB forum (from luftarchiv.de).
Nothing more, because I placed same request.
Cheers
Andrzej

edNorth 26th November 2005 19:24

Re: crashed Ju188 D2 in Poland - help
 
Hello again;

I have now Jet & Prop 01/2002; it contains an press cutting from Polish magazine ´Militaria´ from 1997 but also one more. I will post them via private mail :)
Some appear as mirror images on your scans (or are ones in Magazine mirrored!) One more thing: the individual letter ´D´ appears painted on one of the cockpit windows.

cheers
ed

ArtieBob 28th November 2005 01:58

Re: hints
 
I have no hard data for this W.Nr., but for several W.Nrs, on either side of 150520 assignments were either to ( F)/121 or ( F/)122 . There was a TOCH thread on this aircraft around Jan 4, 1999. I will see if I can dig it out and if it had any more detailed information. That thread did indicate the a/c was shot down by Russian fighters.

Best Regards,

Artie Bob

Andyf 28th November 2005 11:20

Maps!
 
Hi Artie Bob!

Thx for offer! Waiting for results of digging;)

PS I have got additional info, that in canopy were found maps for Italy and Yugoslavian area!
Quote:

IMHO maps for Italy and Yugoslavia can be explained as:
- liaison/ferry flight from Mediterranean to Eastern Prussia / Estonia;
- standard equipment of long range recon planes;
- standard equipment of special mission planes;
"Unfortunately" this plane had radar so first idea seems to fit the best.
Cheers
Andrzej

Andy Mitchell 30th November 2005 01:05

Re: crashed Ju188 D2 in Poland - help
 
AndyF,

Please see below for a list of Ju 188D-2s with werke nummer around "your" 150520.
These are primarily 6(F)./122 with a 3(F)./122 one from (F)120 and another from (F)121.

Can anyone add to this list?

150500 14 Oct 1944 6(F)./122 Ju 188D-2 F6+AP Lost in combat with 72 Sqdn Spitfires in the late afternoon near Bergamo-Serate. One crew member survived but Oblt. B. Freisenhausen, Ofw. J. Franken and Ogfr. F. Regitz were all killed.

150501 18 Oct 1944 6(F)./122 Ju 188D-2 F6+GP Shot down by an American Beaufighter of 417th NFS in the vicinity of Cramona at 1930. Ofw. K. Rautenburg and crew missing.

150512 28 Feb 1945 6(F)./122 Ju 188D-2 Belly landed at Bergamo following a sortie, it sustained 40% damage in the crash. Two crew injured - Uffz. Happel and Fw Steinkönig

150515 30-31 Jan 1945 6(F)./122 Ju 188D-2 F6+EP Crashed 5km S. of Bergamo due to engine problems. Uffz Happel, Fw Steinkönig and Uffz Hänsler were all injured.

150516 5 Mar 1945 3(F)./122 Lkdo,W 3 F Quakenbrück b A JU188D-2 100

150517 Ju188 D2 ??+??, ??.??.?? to Mrz.45, Damaged in cause unknown. while with 1.(F)/120

150525 8 Nov 1944 6(F)./122 JU 188D-2 F6+HP Crashed at Bergamo Fhj. Fw. Schuster and Ofw. Scheithauer injured.

150526 31 Jan 1945 Ju 188D-2 7A+CM 4.(F)/121 Fl.Pl.Sprottau Ran off airfield during practice landing and hit column of refugees 50% Oblt.H.J.Ilbeg reported killed plus twelve refugees

150533 25 Dec 1944 6(F)./122 Ju 188D-2 F6+GP Reported missing overnight 25/26 Dec 1944, 4 crew MIA.

150544 23 Feb 1945 6(F)./122 Ju 188D-2 50% damage in a crash landing at Bergamo.

Andyf 2nd December 2005 12:34

Radar
 
Hi Andy!
Thx for more info!!!
BTW Do you have any photo shwoing D-2 version with radar equipment?

Cheers
Andrzej

Quote:

Ju-188D-1: Reconnaissance version of the Ju-188A-2; It did not carry a bombsight and the crew was reduced to three. The nose MG151 was usually deleted. Cameras were mounted in the rear fuselage (similar to the Ju-88D and two ETC racks were sometimes retained for carrying drop tanks. Bomb bay fuel tanks were usually installed to increase range.
Ju-188D-2: Same as Ju-188D-1 but with provision for carrying FuG 200 Hohwenteil search radar.
http://www.making-history.ca/ju88pro...u188/188e2.jpg http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW3/ju188-003.jpg

Andyf 2nd December 2005 20:05

Book and units list
 
BTW Maybe does someone has book
http://www.militarhobbies.com/libros...1/imagen10.jpg
Is inside any list of losses?

Andyf 2nd December 2005 20:06

Book and units list
 
Andy, could you help me to locate recon units located in January 1945 in nord countries using info http://www.ww2.dk/air/recon.html?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/Andyth/Mamry.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../mapeurope.jpg

Where were located units 6(F)./122, 3(F)./122, (F)120, (F)121. in 1994/45?
Cheers
Andrzej


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