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ahafan 5th July 2013 11:37

Re: ? me 109 -Teeside flown shot down.1940
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Goss (Post 169162)
15 Aug 40 is very much true. Rogue FW 190 very much isn't. Again, Bill stated this in his post

thanks Chris
Just read your book..great reading..
-
Sharon

Chris Goss 5th July 2013 11:37

Re: ? me 109 -Teeside flown shot down.1940
 
Thanks Sharon-which book as I have written one or two!?

Jim P. 11th July 2013 23:21

Re: ? me 109 -Teeside flown shot down.1940
 
Did anyone establish the identity of this machine? Here's a couple of other possibilities:

Bf 109E-4, 1294, Bauer, Ofw. Willi, , III., 8., JG 3, schwarze, 7 + |, , , 15-Oct-40, POW after Notlandung due to Luftkampf., , Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.1, p.252; Prien, III./JG 3, p.447; Mason, p.448; BoB, T&N, p.685, , Princes Golf Course, Sandwich, 100%, F, , ,

Bf 109E-4, 5815, Gärtner, Fw. Josef, 6, III., 8., JG 26, schwarze, 7 + |, , , 25-Oct-40, POW due to Luftkampf with Spitfire from 92 Sq. (Villa)., , Lfl.3/Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #2)-Vol.3; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, IV.1, p.343; Caldwell, JG 26 War Diary, I, p.84; Mason, p.459; BoB, T&N, p.695., , Congelow Farm, Yalding, 100%, F, , 14.30,

Peter Cornwell 12th July 2013 08:07

Re: ? me 109 -Teeside flown shot down.1940
 
Despite his reservations, Franck's ID posted on 2 July was correct. This is indeed FIEL's aircraft as follows:

2 October 1940 8./JG53 Messerschmitt Bf109E-4 (5901). Radiator damaged in attack by Sgt G.J. Bailey of No.603 Squadron during bomber escort sortie over North Kent and belly-landed with engine seized at Addelsted Farm, East Peckham, 10.15 a.m. FF Oberlt Walter Fiel (Staffelkapitän) captured unhurt. Aircraft Black 7 + ׀100% write-off.

ouidjat 12th July 2013 15:49

Re: ? me 109 -Teeside flown shot down.1940
 
Hello,

Thanks Peter.
Sure I was - I'm sure a 100% - but as explained by Bill it wasn't the subject!...
I'm just wandering how Jim didn't know that plane?

But it's OKAY. No problem.

Regards, Franck.

Jim P. 12th July 2013 22:48

Re: ? me 109 -Teeside flown shot down.1940
 
I didn't recognize the photo, and like you (I think it was) I was looking for a little more white/yellow color on the lower left side cowling. Looking it at the photo again I think I can make out the red cowling band, though there isn't a lot of contrast in the b/w print.


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