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excuse my bad english!

"a tail too rounded", I tell about the end of under fuselage (between tailwheel and tip fuselage, where I have surligne in red)

I find a picture whith a similar angle, for compare

the fin of Bf 110 have another ratio top/bottom
and in the foreground, if it is the engine cowling of this a/c, this a/c had radial engine.
These are the reasons why I think it's Do 17

but the "4"? it seems not a german marking,

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Nothing wrong with your English! I think these discussions are always made more difficult in the need to type an answer, and the time lag required to answer simple questions. Much easier in the pub, over a drink, and a lot of finger tapping on photos. ;)

I think your proportion method is a good start, though I'd be careful using it alone (without other cross referencing) on crashed aircraft in general...with possible crushing of structure. Your explanation of a Dornier 17 (perhaps one of the early E or F 'flying pencils) seems quite reasonable.
I have seen German '4' as in the closed 4 but with a small line/space/demarkation between the < and the top of the |, perhaps a stencil connection, (though I admit to being a novice with most things Luftwaffe). I can't quite make out the finer detail of the 4 in the photo.

I'm happy to leave it to the 'experten' to decide.

Regards,
...geoff

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Hello,

Hoping not to set my grain of salt and by-passing this thread, BUT I found a match between the wrecked tail and the tail end of an allegated Do 17 crashed in a forest. I apologize beforehand about the awful quality of the attached picture. A Do 17 is thus possible.

By the way, this Do 17 (..+UK) crashed in the large forested area of Gedinne (in Belgium but near the French border). Obviously, I have any other info. Any ID is welcome.

Sorry to X-cross this thread.

Best regards

ClinA-78 (hé Franck, digging also pictures ;))

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The style of the "4" would make me think of a Yougoslavian aircraft.

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100% disagree, accoring the camo and the " 4 " that's by no means a German but VVS aircraft...at this point hard to judge if PE-2 or an other twin rudder acft

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At this point in time if D.Bernard would post a btter resolution shot, that would make the ID easier.Again thats a VVS aircraft .

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Maybe a Yugoslav Do 17? (Pe-2's horizontal stabilizer was not straight, it was a bit "V" shape.)

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but not Pe 2 or any ac twin rudder who had dihedral

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The Soviets had several developments of twin non dihedral rudders short and medium range bombers
and recon acfts before and during the war , with no high resolution is hard to really determine,
this could well match the TU-2 ,less probable a YAK-4 or maybe one of their other developmens etc.
The missing front section makes the ID more harder.

Undoubtedly it's a VVS or VMF aircraft and location is not France.

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i think dornier 17 is a good possibility...