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gunbird 29th May 2014 16:38

Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by udf_00 (Post 185095)
Found this when googling for : Clausen 111008
www.fotografie-hundt.de/_me262-db-muster.xlsx
and in google books :
The Me 262 Stormbird: From the Pilots Who Flew, Fought, and Survived It
Colin D. Heaton
p284 for the losses on 17 FEB 1945.
p282 for the loss of Georg-Peter Eder on 22 JAN 1945. Seems that the narrative in Manfred Boehme's JG 7 is mis-dated.

great document!

<The Me 262 Stormbird>and <the Messerschmitt Me 262 combat diary> have the same losses data,i found <Me 262 the production log 1941-1945> should be more accurate

gunbird 29th May 2014 17:03

Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken (Post 185078)
Hi.

As far as I can see, the following must be the loss linked to Eder:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=101908

In total three losses for JG 7, one for I. Gruppe and two for III. Gruppe.

Regards,
Andreas B

According to <Messerschmitt Me 262: The Production Log 1941-1945 >,WNr. 501199 suffer 60% loss after emergency landing,but Eder 's aircraft obviously got totally destroyed .


JG 7 loss at least 4 jets that day:111008,111805,111591,501199

Dan O'Connell 29th May 2014 23:00

Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?
 
I recall wondering about that information about the Fohrde/Föhrde occurances, but was unable to come up with any thing further. I had to simply present the evidence as found.

udf_00 30th May 2014 11:24

Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?
 
From this one :
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/STORMBIRD-LUF...-/150852977899
( ISBN 1 902109 00 7 )
p.132
17 Feb 1945 :
No ops, training exercise Leuna-Liepzig area. Returning to Parchim, HB got lost; after flying 50 mn, his n°4 belly landed on the ensnowed heath,
climbing out of the plane unhurt, HB led the 2 others south until making out the Ülsen r/w station and landing at Lüneburg 10-15 mn later.
At least one belly landed somewhere in the Lüneburg Heath.
p.169 Flugbuch facsimile
17 FEB 1945 t/o Parchim 15.17, l Lüneburg 16.17.

Andreas Brekken 30th May 2014 19:31

Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?
 
Hi, all

What is the source for the damage/loss to WNr 111805?

Regards,
Andreas B

gunbird 1st June 2014 03:31

Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by udf_00 (Post 185167)
From this one :
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/STORMBIRD-LUF...-/150852977899
( ISBN 1 902109 00 7 )
p.132
17 Feb 1945 :
No ops, training exercise Leuna-Liepzig area. Returning to Parchim, HB got lost; after flying 50 mn, his n°4 belly landed on the ensnowed heath,
climbing out of the plane unhurt, HB led the 2 others south until making out the Ülsen r/w station and landing at Lüneburg 10-15 mn later.
At least one belly landed somewhere in the Lüneburg Heath.
p.169 Flugbuch facsimile
17 FEB 1945 t/o Parchim 15.17, l Lüneburg 16.17.

thank you!just order this book, now it's on the way~

gunbird 1st June 2014 03:33

Re: Two JG 7 "Green 2" lost in Fohrde/Föhrde forest on same day?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Brekken (Post 185175)
Hi, all

What is the source for the damage/loss to WNr 111805?

Regards,
Andreas B

<Messerschmitt Me 262: The Production Log 1941-1945 > page 140.

95% damage due to engine fire


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