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edNorth 5th August 2014 00:12

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
Merlin, I do know, not first time here today :-)

But what is your (corrected) source for D-INUT if not this logbook?

I was merely informing of that A 48 D- NUT 3362 has written logboook source and what it was. Besides its now well over 40 years since I stated my researche´s into aviation history in general and have come across quite a few "exceptions" and "mistakes" and "surprises" and such.

I recommmend put in "safety" clause, as never say never, when it comes to anything RLM or Luftwaffe business. Or even USAAF for that matter. Latest surprise I saw was a twin engined B-17G (outer engines and nacelles removed and faired). Ok, I knew of a twin Halifax (taxi trainer).

Ed

eknutson 5th August 2014 11:00

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
Summary so far:

Ar66C WNr.0767 D-INUI.

Fliegerübungsstelle Schönwalde 08.35 - 12.36
Fliegerschule Halberstadt 06.38 - 09.38
Erg.Btl. 31 at Brandis 09.39
Verbindungsstaffel 58 30% damage at Biala Podlaska on 29.06.41

Ar66C WNr. 0410 ND + NX.

Ar66C - WNr.0410 - D-???? - manufactured November 1934, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH [source: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - D-???? - ND+NX - Sch./FAR10 - Neukuhren, Germany - Stkz assigned November 1939 [sources: Barry Rosch; Luftarchiv-Stkz]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - Sch./FAR10 - Neukuhren, Germany - June 1940 [source: Eric Guillaume]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - Sch./FAR10 - Neukuhren, Germany - September 1940 [source: Luftarchiv-Stkz]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - FFS(A/B)125 - Neukuhren, Germany on 27-Jan-41. Flight entry in Flugbuch. [source: Fb.Röwert; photo]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - FFS(A/B)125 - Neukuhren, Germany on 20-Jul-41. Flight entry in Flugbuch [source: Fb.Kübler; photo]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - FFS(A/B)125 Neukuhren, Germany - October 1941 [source: Luftarchiv-Stkz]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - FFS(A/B)3 - Guben, Germany - February 1943 [source: Luftarchiv-Stkz]


Ar66C WNr. 0551 D-IKYH.

Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH - manufactured May 1935, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Warnemünde, Germany [sources: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936; Tom Willis; Jörg Meincke; LEMB]
Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH Fliegerschule Böblingen 06/36. [sources: Rasmussen forum.12oclockhigh]



Ar66C WNr. 2127.

Ar66C - WNr.2127 - manufactured 1936, AGO Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Oschersleben, Germany [source: Tom Willis]

Merlin 6th August 2014 10:25

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
Post #10: The photo is not my property, therefore I can not post it. The number is clearly redable and not hidden by any strut.


Post #11: My entries for D-INUT are from the Flugbuch Baltabol and the monthly accident summary for June 1935 which lists the A 48 D-INUT as a 100% crash with Fliegergruppe (S) Schleißheim.


Post 12: some additional data for these Ar 66 aircraft

Ar66C WNr.0767 D-INUI
Under repair at Basser company Berlin 03.42

Ar66C WNr.0410 D-IPES
Used by DLV Hamburg from 12.34 until 04.36 and later Fliegerübungsstelle Hamburg during summer 1937

The correlation to registration ND+NX is wrong - see post #10.
The flights listed in your table did belong to ND+NX.

Ar66C WNr. 0551 D-IKYH
Fliegerschule Böblingen 05.35 to 08.37, school moved to Nellingen 09.37
Fliegerschule Nellingen 09.37 to 02.39

Tom Willis 6th August 2014 12:52

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
Hi Merlin

Thanks for your detailed reply

My notes on ND+NX have the same details but does not not refer to any W/Nr.

If it is any help the PJ+A? for the Ar66C only relates from PJ+AA to PJ+AK

Regards
Tom

eknutson 6th August 2014 13:06

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
Tanks for this useful update Merlin. can you send a scan of the foto to me on mail eknutso@broadpark.no

Regards
Ernst

Norbert Schuchbauer 7th August 2014 16:02

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
Hi Merlin,
thank you for the clarification on the Werknummer of ND+NX.

Regards,
Norbert

eknutson 11th August 2014 22:42

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
New summary:

And we found another new WNr. 2170 anything on this ?

Ar66C WNr.0767 D-INUI.

Fliegerübungsstelle Schönwalde 08.35 - 12.36 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Fliegerschule Halberstadt 06.38 - 09.38 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Erg.Btl. 31 at Brandis 09.39 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Verbindungsstaffel 58 30% damage at Biala Podlaska on 29.06.41 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Under repair at Basser company Berlin 03.42 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]

27.11.44 is 3./N.S.Gr.8 on Bardufoss.

Ended up at Bardufoss as wrecks from Nachtschlacht Gruppe 8
There exists a foto taken at bardufoss showing airframes with codes
6J+VL and 6J+QL, if our is one of this we dont know.

We have 2 data plates for this airfarme
One from Arado Flugzeug Werke (1935), the other from G. Basser K.G. Zwickau Sa.(Mars 42). The last one is proably from a repair. Both have Werk Nr : 767.


Ar66C WNr. 0410 D-IPES PJ+A?

Used by DLV Hamburg from 12.34 until 04.36 and later Fliegerübungsstelle Hamburg during summer 1937 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]

Ar66C - WNr.0410 - D-IPES manufactured November 1934, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH [source: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936]


Ar66C WNr. 0551 D-IKYH.

Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH - manufactured May 1935, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Warnemünde, Germany [sources: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936; [Tom Willis; Jörg Meincke; LEMB]
Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH Fliegerschule Böblingen 06/36. [sources: Rasmussen forum.12oclockhigh]
Fliegerschule Böblingen 05.35 to 08.37, school moved to Nellingen 09.37 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Fliegerschule Nellingen 09.37 to 02.39 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]


Ar66c WNr. 2170



Ar66C WNr. 2127.

Ar66C - WNr.2127 - manufactured 1936, AGO Flugzeugwerke GmbH,
Oschersleben, Germany [source: Tom Willis]

Is it possible to get a scan of the 0410 picture as a refrence to our museum ?.

Tanks in advance
Ernst

Eric GUILLAUME 12th August 2014 10:48

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
Hello,

I have a (poor) photo showing Wnr. 410 from FFS(A/B) 14, with a partially legible Stkz : RO+A?
Regards.
Eric

eknutson 12th August 2014 16:34

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
So some of this is not a Ar66 but somthing else then. Is it possible to see the 2 fotos of WrkNr 0410 then? or maybe 1410 ?

Eric GUILLAUME 12th August 2014 23:49

Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66
 
Hello,

I have just sent you a scan from the photo I have.
Regards.

Eric


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