Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

Thanks Stephen and Richard,

If someone could present a picture of an WNr plate of the airframe of a Me 262 would be great and a big help.
With regards,

Jaap

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

Hello Jaap and Stephen,

Alright then;

"Weisse 34" (Black nose) of 1./NAGr.6, taken in München-Riem Scrap beside Wiesses F has one just over "3" number.
"Weisse 9", same unit taken during winter at Lechfled (?) has one; just over "9".
"Lady Jess IV" has one.
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The colour picture of one A-1a/U3 on nose, no code number, has one.
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500539 at Lechfeld "Weisse 33" too.
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I think Guido Mukte machine had one too but it's not clear.

And so on.

Turn to be easier when one know where to look for it!

Thanks Stephen.

Best regards, Franck.

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

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Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

Dear All,

I've looked at photos of each of the Me 262's that Franck has mentioned, except for the Deutches Museum's aircraft. The name plate should be a standard rectangular one as shown in the attachment provided by Stephen Polyak. With a couple of possible exceptions, the rest of the supposed name plates don't fit this illustration. For instance, a rectangle that is formed by 4 large black smudges does not fit. Lady Jess IV has the American pilot's name on it directly below the cockpit canopy. But others, as Franck points out, could be actual nameplates. Unfortunately, none of the photos I have gets close enough to see if they truly conform to what a nameplate should have on it.

It is possible that a decision was made not to use nameplates to avoid giving hints to the Allies where the hidden assembly facilities were located. There is also the issue of Nachrüstbetrieb, wherein airframes assembled at one of the main plants were disassembled and shipped by land for reassembly and checkout elsewhere, such as at Brandenburg-Briest. What Hersteller would thus be on the tag?

Regards,
Richard

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

Dear Richard,

I don't know what identification plate should have been according to the official instructions and according interpretation builders have made of it but you should have noticed too that all list I did provide are/were ALL A-1a/U3s; which is quite noticeable; don't you think so?
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Check Hohagen Weisse 2, behind the "2" .. supposed to be the first in the row .. Is it much more conform to what expected?
As for me I don't know, I just found funny to add a "new game" in the play.

Best Regards, Franck.

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

Dear Franck,

That is an interesting observation that all those with supposed nameplates are Me 262A-1a/U3's. I tried to find a white 2 in my collection, but came up dry on that one.

Regards,
Richard

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

Hi Richard,

The White 2 that Franck refers to is Maj. Erich Hohagen's Me262A-1a fighter WNr.170071 of III./EJG 2. It was found on the side of the autobahn south of Munich / Neubiberg in early May 1945. There are many extant photos of it taken during its service life and discovery.

Cheers,

David

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

Exactly David,

Here is one extract of the said bad scan I have ...

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

Dear Franck and David,

Given the W.Nr., I do have some photos of this bird. I don't know if the nose was taken from another aircraft but, as shown, it is not an A-1a/U3. Also, I think that you are looking at the cockpit air scoop, not an identification plate.

Regards,
Richard

Re: Me262 found at Deelen
 

I have had contact with the Deutsches Museum.
Their Me 262 W.Nr. 500071 has had a Werknummer-plate on the left side of the fuselage near the cockpit.
But it's gone, "we suppose,it was stolen many years ago" according the curator of aeronautics.

Jaap