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Nick Hector 5th December 2014 12:28

Re: JG 53 Victories
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nokose (Post 192991)
This is from a 103 ShAP report for the 29 Jul 1942. Three Il-2 from the 103 ShAP attacked a German mechanized column at Nikolaevskaya. They had as escorts 5 Yak-1 from 247 IAP and 7 Yak-1 from 16 GIAP. Bf 109 pulled the escorts into a dogfight leaving the Shturmoviks alone. They were intercepted and shot down leaving the target.

Il-2 130 ShAP Lt. Sergey Tikhonovich Aver'yanov (Returned to his regiment after going down)
Il-2 130 ShAP Ml. Lt. Georgiy Petrovich Kovalenko (Same)
Il-2 130 ShAP Serzhant Yakov Il'ich Prokop'ev (KIA)

Appears to be an under claiming on this one.
Obfw. Heinrich Leschert 3./JG 53
(16) Il-2 15:50 PlQu. 44 Ost/1877
(17) Il-2 15:53 PlQu. 44 Ost/1878

Another loss for this date was 66 ShAP, Sergei Alekseevich Feoktistov forcelanded in Russian territory and hospitalized. Is there any clue as to how his loss was brought about? I had surmised that maybe it was tied in with Leschert's claims...

Nick

Nokose 5th December 2014 18:56

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Sorry Nick but found no mention of the 66 ShAP.

Nick Hector 5th December 2014 21:13

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Hi Nokose (and anyone else pursuing this fascinating subject),

try this link:

http://www.allaces.ru/p/people.php?id=00000007925

The write-up makes clear mention of Bf109s, although he may actually have been serving with 568 ShAP at the time (my mistake, sorry)

Nick

Nokose 5th December 2014 23:39

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Nick, on the link listed Feoktistov it has he shot down a Bf 109 on the 29 Jul 1942. The only Bf 109 I found in the Stalingrad area with damage in a dogfight was Uffz. Wilhelm Crinus 3./JG 53 Bf 109 G-2 15% at PlQu. 1712. Nikita would probably know who caused that damage.

On looking at that link it has Feoktistov in his victories as shooting down three Ju 52 on the 15 May 42 while in the 66 ShAP (but in the episodes he was serving in the 568 on the 22 Mar 42). Next victories on the 06 June 42 over two Ju 52 while in the 568 ShAP.

Even the story on the 22 Mar 42 is strange. Ml. Lt. Aleksey Yakovlevich Shcherbakov of the 568 ShAP was listed as shot down or hit by a German fighter at the time before being listed KIA. Ml. Lt. Nikolay Nikolaevich Smirnov of the 568 ShAP as MIA after a dogfight and Ml. Lt. Vladimir Trofimovich Kartavitskiy (MIA). If they were in an air battle with the III/JG 3 this might account for some of the Il-2 shot down that day.

Nick Hector 5th December 2014 23:56

Re: JG 53 Victories
 
Yes, I have noted that alongside the III/JG 3 claims in my listing as they are potential matches for his loss. Until your post, it was pretty much all I knew about IL-2 losses over Stalingrad on that date.

Does anyone know what happened to Nikita's Stalingrad book? I pre-ordered it on Amazon but they eventually baled on me. Will it go ahead after all?

Nokose 20th December 2014 00:03

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25 Jun 1942
U-2 16 RAB St. Lt. Pavel Fedorovich Novikov (KIA - air battle) Buried Cherova (Orel Obl.)

The only Luftwaffe claim for this region and day.
1./JG 53 Uffz Heinz Seig R-5 (1) 07:39 (No location but I./JG 53 was stationed in this region. Seig would claim 12 more before his death.

Nokose 14th December 2023 18:56

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27 July 1941
16:30 (Moscow) 7 I-16 from 87 IAP attacked the airfield at Fursy to the west of Belaja-Zerkow (Bia Tserkva, Ukraine). 5 of the I-16 were listed as failure to return from combat mission, 2 of which made emergency landings at Pereyaslav.

Lt. Walter Zellot 1./JG 53 I-16 (9) 15:00 north of Belaja-Zerkow
Lt. Helmut Macher 2./JG 53 I-16 () 15:15

The other I-16 fell to the airfield’s AAA and listed as a witness for the flak unit Lt. Schiess of Stab/JG 53. In Prien’s JFV 6/II there is listed a a Lt. Franz Schiehs of Stab/JG 53, so did Prien’s list misspell Schiess’s name?

The names of the pilots of the 87 IAP are available but who fell to flak and who to fighters is not known.

Leo Etgen 15th December 2023 15:40

JG 53 Victories
 
Hi Nokose

I've read that the surname of Hauptmann Franz Schiess or Schieß could also be written as Schiehs ... I've no idea which was used on his birth or death certificates, however.

Horrido!

Leo

Nokose 19th December 2023 01:08

Re: JG 53 Victories
 
5 April 1944
IV/JG 51 fighters strafed the airfield at Zubiv, Ukraine, where 728 IAP was stationed. One Yak-9D burned on the ground. Having the misfortune of picking the wrong time to land was a Li-2 bomber of the 12 GAP ADD and was shot down. It crashed to the ground and resulted in 3 crew as killed and 3 wounded.

Unteroffizier Peter Repple (Tony Woods list has the last name as Rogglin) 11./JG 51 claimed a PS-84 (?) at 07:58 at an altitude of 30 meters.

Nokose 19th December 2023 01:15

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Post #19 was meant to be for “JG 51 victories” but got added to JG 53 by mistake.


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