Re: Mystery Plane
 

After a plane crash many-many engines had oval shape :-))))) I think this crash-shot is not an evidence to exclude the Li-2. I am not saying it is a Li-2, but this deformed engine does not exclude the option at all.

Re: Mystery Plane
 

I believe HGabor is correct, Li-2.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Malev...65c79b3edddf90

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Sunfl...65c79b3edddf90

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untit...65c79b3edddf90

Re: Mystery Plane
 

Hi,
It definitely not a family tree Il-4 (Db-3a; Db-3b; Db-3Т; Db-3М; Db-3Ф (Il-4); Il-4Т)
They have a tail plumage more and at three points of fastening, and the tail wheel would be visible.
Also on the right in a picture it is visible a rack of the chassis is it is definitely not resistant the DB-3 chassis.
The M-87 or M-88 motor is more (14 cylinders in two ranks).

At this plane lower wing; the tail wheel is closer to the beginning of plumage; characteristic rack of the chassis; the motor is similar to ASh-62 (9 cylinders) with small air-receivers (it's torn off from a motor-gondola). I think this early version PS-84 (DC-3, Li-2)
Best regards, Kirill

Re: Mystery Plane
 

Gabor

No not really, the post crash forces did not oval shape the nacell, the engine's nacell size seems smaller than this of LI-2 , A-20, DB or IL series, sorry it doesn't fit

Re: Mystery Plane
 

Trim tab and hinges align as does the rear fuselage shape.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...psc2b57814.png

Re: Mystery Plane
 

Cowl lines and carb intake scoop also align.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...psb120d61c.png

Re: Mystery Plane
 

Is that a trim tab on the elevator?

Re: Mystery Plane
 

I still think the Li-2 is a good candidate here, since engine cover damages cannot be verified 100% from visually limited crash photos. But surely, it is up to you what you think. (However, the details of the tail and the engine look like a perfect match with the Li-2 and radial engines can be deformed easily to this oval shape during crash. I have seen similarly "oval" B-17 engine photos after crash...)
Gabor

Re: Mystery Plane
 

Gabor / Revi

I agree about the similarities on the aft section of the fuselage and trim tabs
as into the cowl flap this could be a feature on other aircraft type , as into the
oval shape caused by the impact, I am talking about the upper section . But
all clues start getting closer to LI-2

Re: Mystery Plane
 

Thank you all-you now see why I asked the question and before it is asked, this photo was taken by a German soldier